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Ant ID ? Riverside CA 92507 , 02/03/15 3:00 PM


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#1 Offline SanBernardino909 - Posted February 5 2015 - 11:25 PM

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Can anyone please help ID ?

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#2 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 5 2015 - 11:28 PM

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It's best to read this post first, and post some information about the ant. A picture is not usually enough for an ID.

 

It is definitely a male of some sort.



#3 Offline SanBernardino909 - Posted February 5 2015 - 11:35 PM

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Sorry I just read what it says about posting . I don't have much information other than I am near box springs mountain park in Moreno Valley I found this one in a swimming pool in Riverside.

#4 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 5 2015 - 11:38 PM

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Well size is one of the most important. Any idea how long it was in mm? The swimming pool part is good information also; that means it flew recently.



#5 Offline SanBernardino909 - Posted February 5 2015 - 11:49 PM

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It looked around 7 mm to 8 mm. I found only 3 no other ants around. Haven't seen anymore recently.

#6 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 5 2015 - 11:55 PM

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Ohhh, I think this is Veromessor pergandei then. Wow, this means they might have flown.



#7 Offline SanBernardino909 - Posted February 6 2015 - 12:00 AM

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That sucks, thanks for the reply and information.

#8 Offline Chromerust - Posted February 6 2015 - 12:01 AM

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Nice find!
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#9 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 6 2015 - 12:18 AM

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If this is indeed Veromessor pergandei, and they had a mating flight today, you should be able to find founding chambers near by. As cold as it is at night, it might take them a few days to finish digging their nests. I think they only open them up and dig at night, so that would be the easiest way to catch one. This is exactly how it went in Phelan, CA last year where I got mine.



#10 Offline SanBernardino909 - Posted February 6 2015 - 12:14 PM

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Nice, looks like they are flying again; I just caught 6 more. They all look they same. Are they males ?
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#11 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 6 2015 - 12:27 PM

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Awesome. This might just be some pre-nuptial flight activity then. The one in the picture is a male. I haven't seen the others so I couldn't tell you for sure what those are.



#12 Offline SanBernardino909 - Posted February 6 2015 - 12:45 PM

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Oh okay, I will take some pictures and upload them later today.
Thanks

#13 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted February 6 2015 - 12:55 PM

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Its only February!!! I am not ready for these flights!

#14 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted February 6 2015 - 1:00 PM

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This is only in Riverside though, no way they have flown in the high desert! Right? :/ :|

#15 Offline Foogoo - Posted February 6 2015 - 1:21 PM

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It's best to read this post first, and post some information about the ant. A picture is not usually enough for an ID.

 

It is definitely a male of some sort.

What are some dead giveaways of male vs. female?


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#16 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 6 2015 - 2:26 PM

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This is only in Riverside though, no way they have flown in the high desert! Right? :/ :|

 
Won't know until jimbodw07 answers my PM.

#17 Offline Chromerust - Posted February 6 2015 - 2:59 PM

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What are some dead giveaways of male vs. female?

 

A tiny head and a long gaster that comes to a sharp point. Another giveaway is they will be dead, or wandering around with no direction. Queens are focused and actively seeking a spot to dig their founding chambers.



#18 Offline SanBernardino909 - Posted February 6 2015 - 6:00 PM

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So definitely males all are dead. :-/




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