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#1 Offline William. T - Posted January 30 2015 - 1:10 PM

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When I pulled my colony out of hibernation yesterday night, the queen seem to not be moving, but her workers were fine. When I checked this morning, she still was not moving. Is she dead?


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1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 


#2 Offline dean_k - Posted January 30 2015 - 1:21 PM

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Queens may not make through hibernation which is one of reasons some want exotic ants that don't require hibernation.

 

What is temp of room they are currently in? Sometimes queens require higher temp to start moving again. Try to place them somewhere hotter, close to 25c, and see how it goes. If she won't move and remain curled up, then yes she is dead.



#3 Offline benjiwuf - Posted January 30 2015 - 1:31 PM

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also take into consideration and please help answer these questions:  how long were they in hibernation? what kind of setup are they in? what species are they? how cold was their hibernation setup?



#4 Offline Miles - Posted January 30 2015 - 1:31 PM

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Some queens can remain curled up for days before they wake up.


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#5 Offline Mercutia - Posted January 30 2015 - 1:54 PM

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What Miles said. Give her some time to come around. If she doesn't revive in a week, maybe then call time of death.



#6 Offline Crystals - Posted January 30 2015 - 1:59 PM

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I find in some species, especially after a longer or colder hibernation, that it can take days for the queen to wake even though the workers wake pretty quick.

 

First hibernation is always the worst. Apparently, if there is anything wrong with the genes that allow them to hibernate safely, they will not survive their first hibernation.

That being said, I hibernated over 80 colonies at 7C for 4 months and only lost one queen.

 

Species?

Temp?

Time?

Were they near the air vent in hibernation? 

Were they in a fridge?


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#7 Offline DesertAntz - Posted January 30 2015 - 4:12 PM

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That sucks Pheidole. Hopefully she'll wake up soon. 


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#8 Offline William. T - Posted January 31 2015 - 7:50 AM

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I checked today. She was still curled up. The workers were fine. To warm her up, I lifted my terrarium up on stilts made out of legos, and placed my test tubed colony under right next to the heat pad, which doesn't give out too heat. I fed the colony raisin for sugars. Any other foods required? Any thoughts?


Species I keep:

 

1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 


#9 Offline Crystals - Posted January 31 2015 - 8:00 AM

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1. What species?

2. what was the temperature in hibernation?

3. How long were they in hibernation

4. Were they near the air vent in hibernation? 

5. Were they in a fridge or in a garage?

 

I usually feed sugar water for sugar.  None of my species would touch a raisin....


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#10 Offline William. T - Posted January 31 2015 - 6:46 PM

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They were in a tackle box, which was in a garage. I caught these in the wild, and I don't know how long they have been hibernating. I will post an ID soon. They were not in an air vent. I don't think the temps were dangerous, as the workers were alive. Do they need more food? I will feed them a small test tube of sugar water.


Species I keep:

 

1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 


#11 Offline William. T - Posted February 1 2015 - 10:18 AM

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Today, I checked on colony. A worker was drinking sugar water. The queen still is not moving, but her legs are not as folded in as before. Any thoughts? Is she finally starting to wake up?


Species I keep:

 

1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 


#12 Offline Miles - Posted February 1 2015 - 10:22 AM

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Today, I checked on colony. A worker was drinking sugar water. The queen still is not moving, but her legs are not as folded in as before. Any thoughts? Is she finally starting to wake up?

It's possible. 


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#13 Offline dean_k - Posted February 1 2015 - 10:46 AM

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All we can do is speculate at the moment.

 

Chances are low that the queen is alive though.


Edited by dean_k, February 1 2015 - 10:47 AM.


#14 Offline Miles - Posted February 1 2015 - 11:03 AM

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I'd give her more time. I know that Mikey of AntsCanada had a queen like this for over a week.


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#15 Offline William. T - Posted February 2 2015 - 6:49 PM

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Update: Still no activity from her.


Species I keep:

 

1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 





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