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#1 Offline JTaves - Posted June 8 2018 - 11:34 AM

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1. Location of collection: Miramonte/Dunlap, California. About 4500 feet

2. Date of collection June 8
3. Habitat of collection: oak and pine forrest
4. Length: I am unsure. I thought it was a bee or a wasp when I first saw it. It is probably one of the largest ants I have seen
5. Coloration: black and orange
6. Distinguishing characteristics: one node and triangle head

 

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Edited by JTaves, June 9 2018 - 6:17 AM.


#2 Offline nurbs - Posted June 8 2018 - 12:04 PM

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You will need to get measurements and much clearer, sharper, and in focus closeup images. 

 

Having explored numerous spots in Northern and Southern CA, the middle point of Miramonte/Dunlap area is an area I've yet to see. But if I were a bettin' man, would guess with high probability this be Camponotus vicinus. The dual coloring on thorax seems to point to that. When in doubt, Camponotus vicinus.

  


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#3 Offline JTaves - Posted June 8 2018 - 2:51 PM

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Redid my album. The ant is 3/4 of an inch long



#4 Offline gcsnelling - Posted June 8 2018 - 3:04 PM

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How bout you put the images in the post instead of making someone click an outside link to see the images.


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#5 Offline JTaves - Posted June 8 2018 - 3:09 PM

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How bout you put the images in the post instead of making someone click an outside link to see the images.

Because every time I have tried that it always fails. 



#6 Offline dspdrew - Posted June 8 2018 - 5:56 PM

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I really wish Facebook never existed. There once was a day when people knew how to forum.


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#7 Offline Enderz - Posted June 8 2018 - 8:04 PM

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You need to post individual pictures in albums, not post the damed album all by itself. Use the guides on the FRONT PAGE: http://www.formicult...to-post-photos/

 

and Barr's little vid:


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#8 Offline T.C. - Posted June 8 2018 - 8:09 PM

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It's Camponotus sp. Embed your photos in know to find what species exactly!

 

(It's like a game)


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#9 Offline JTaves - Posted June 9 2018 - 6:18 AM

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Fixed the images.



#10 Offline Solenoqueen - Posted June 30 2018 - 7:54 PM

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Camponotus Americanus. Instead of fussing over a solved problem, maybe you could answer his question?

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#11 Offline Enderz - Posted June 30 2018 - 8:37 PM

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Camponotus Americanus. Instead of fussing over a solved problem, maybe you could answer his question?

People need to learn how to embed photos on this forum, I don't want to go around clicking links while trying to ID.


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#12 Offline Solenoqueen - Posted June 30 2018 - 8:39 PM

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Understood, understood.

Camponotus Americanus. Instead of fussing over a solved problem, maybe you could answer his question?

People need to learn how to embed photos on this forum, I don't want to go around clicking links while trying to ID.

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#13 Offline Enderz - Posted June 30 2018 - 8:46 PM

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Also, a correct measurement would be nice. Me and LC3 are a little unsure that it is Camponotus americanus. It may be C. vicinus but it could be either one, don't want to nail up the coffin yet.


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#14 Offline Solenoqueen - Posted June 30 2018 - 8:55 PM

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I mainly believe that it is C. Americans, because the very tip of the gaster has distinct darkness in comparison to the rest of the gaster. Also, C. Americanus experiences this type of coloration, whereas I am not so sure if C. Vicinus even does, or offer at that.

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#15 Offline LC3 - Posted June 30 2018 - 9:12 PM

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C. vicinus is really variable in colour, to the point where it can't be distinguished with certain other Camponotus on the field (for the record it can be black, red, yellow or a combination of these).  I think it's C. vicinus because there seems to be rows of hair on the mid and hind tibia (which to my knowledge, I believe C. americanus lacks), and the scape resembles more of that to C. vicinus. Other then that I can't make our much more of the picture. I also don't think that C. americanus occurs at such altitudes or is associated with mountains, and that it's range is more northward. Ecology wise that's speculation.

 

Also I believe nurbs knows his stuff :P


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#16 Offline Enderz - Posted June 30 2018 - 9:49 PM

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"When in doubt, Camponotus vicinus." - nurbs.

 

But anyway I agree with LC3 though you bring up some good points. Vicinus also seems to be more common in socal than americanus, leading me to lean more to vicinus.

 

(Side note, you can always edit your posts, just click the little button on the bottom right hand side.)


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#17 Offline Solenoqueen - Posted June 30 2018 - 9:57 PM

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"When in doubt, Camponotus vicinus." - nurbs.
 
But anyway I agree with LC3 though you bring up some good points. Vicinus also seems to be more common in socal than americanus, leading me to lean more to vicinus.
 
(Side note, you can always edit your posts, just click the little button on the bottom right hand side.)


I’m not super sure of any species, but yeah, it could be either one with those points in mind. Also, strangely, I find the “Edit” button to be whited out, and therefore unusable. Thanks for the tutorial haha ;)

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