Jump to content

  • Chat
  •  
  •  

Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo

Parasites Emerging From Queen Ant Gaster


  • Please log in to reply
40 replies to this topic

#21 Offline nurbs - Posted May 30 2018 - 4:10 PM

nurbs

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,630 posts
  • LocationLos Angeles

Did you taste one? Looks delicious. 


  • dspdrew and T.C. like this

Instagram:
nurbsants
 
YouTube
 
California Ants for Sale

 

Unidentified Myrmecocystus

https://www.formicul...ls-near-desert/

 

Undescribed "Modoc"

https://www.formicul...mp-ca-5-4-2017/

 

Camponotus or Colobopsis yogi:

https://www.formicul...a-ca-1-28-2018/

 
Camponotus us-ca02
https://www.formicul...onotus-us-ca02/

 

Unidentified Formica

https://www.formicul...l-ca-6-27-2020/

 
Pencil Case and Test Tube Formicariums
https://www.formicul...m-and-outworld/
 
Bloodworm Soup
https://www.formicul...bloodworm-soup/


#22 Offline dspdrew - Posted May 30 2018 - 4:16 PM

dspdrew
  • LocationSanta Ana, CA

The only species I have gotten these same looking larvae bursting out of are Liometopum occidentale. I kept some once and they turned into flies.


  • Mettcollsuss likes this

#23 Offline T.C. - Posted May 30 2018 - 4:20 PM

T.C.

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,099 posts

Did you taste one? Looks delicious. 

 

I sauteed them first.



#24 Offline T.C. - Posted May 31 2018 - 11:23 AM

T.C.

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,099 posts

On queen two, my suspicions where correct. I came to find the same things crawling out of this queen as well.



#25 Offline sgheaton - Posted May 31 2018 - 11:40 AM

sgheaton

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 933 posts
  • LocationMinnesota

...Come now, TC.... you know the rules...... Pics or it didn't happen and in this case, we all want the video!

 

Consensus is they are fly larva? 


"I'm the search bar! Type questions into me and I'll search within the forums for an answer!"


#26 Offline Hunter - Posted May 31 2018 - 11:58 AM

Hunter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 565 posts
  • LocationWaterboro Maine

if you micro image the photo the larva have no teeth indicating it is not a maggot and going of species of ant i would say you have Elasmosoma luxemburgense larva



#27 Offline T.C. - Posted May 31 2018 - 12:21 PM

T.C.

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,099 posts

...Come now, TC.... you know the rules...... Pics or it didn't happen and in this case, we all want the video!

 

Consensus is they are fly larva? 

 



#28 Offline gcsnelling - Posted May 31 2018 - 2:55 PM

gcsnelling

    Expert

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,681 posts

Well we shall see.



#29 Offline T.C. - Posted May 31 2018 - 3:27 PM

T.C.

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,099 posts

Well we shall see.


Do you think the container alone will be enough for them to pupate?

#30 Offline Mortamir - Posted May 31 2018 - 5:28 PM

Mortamir

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 94 posts
  • LocationRavensdale, WA
Mine died after a couple of days with just the queen in there. Also some got through the cotton to water which means some got through.....

#31 Offline LC3 - Posted May 31 2018 - 8:45 PM

LC3

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,323 posts
  • LocationBC, Canada
Maybe they need substrate. Judging by how active they are, they might burrow into the substrate or wood (from the claustral chamber) and pupate there.

#32 Offline T.C. - Posted May 31 2018 - 9:24 PM

T.C.

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,099 posts
Well one thing for sure, they are tough as hell. I put four into 96% alcohol, after they fell onto my workspace. It's been 5 minutes and fully submerged they are still moving.

#33 Offline Russell - Posted May 31 2018 - 10:32 PM

Russell

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 54 posts
  • LocationVictoria Canada

I lost a number of Lasius to parasites last year. Gasters broken open with a dead fly in test tube. I also was out looking today for Camponotus and found a number of what were likely parasitic wasps walking on logs I know the Camponotus nest in. 


Camponotus Pennsylvanicus/Modus

Tetramorium sp. E

Formica Podzolica

Lasius Alienus

Lasius Niger

Formica Ravida 


#34 Offline T.C. - Posted June 5 2018 - 6:01 PM

T.C.

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,099 posts

We have some of them pupating, we are gonna see what they are soon.


  • LC3, TennesseeAnts and BobJ like this

#35 Offline BobJ - Posted June 12 2018 - 2:07 PM

BobJ

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 24 posts
  • LocationCharleston, SC

I found what looks like those same parasitic maggots squirming out of a swatted grey striped flesh fly just now.   The maggots were coming out of the fly's thorax and abdomen.  Be careful feeding flys to your ants.


  • Mettcollsuss likes this

#36 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted June 12 2018 - 2:34 PM

AnthonyP163

    Vendor

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 986 posts
  • LocationWaukesha, Wisconsin.

Mine aren't yet eclosed from their pupae, but it's gotta be soon. They've been in there for at least a week. I'm thinking they might be a type of fly as gcsnelling mentioned.

 

Will post here when they do.


Edited by AnthonyP163, June 12 2018 - 2:35 PM.


Ant Keeping & Ethology Discord - 2000+ Members and growing

Statesideants.com - order live ants legally in the US

 


#37 Offline rbarreto - Posted June 12 2018 - 2:39 PM

rbarreto

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 645 posts
  • LocationOttawa, On
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the maggots would be harmless to the ants. You would need whatever they turn to to be mated to possibly harm your ant. Even them I'm pretty sure they are quite specialized and would only lay in swatted grey stripped flesh flies.

Edited by rbarreto, June 12 2018 - 2:39 PM.

  • LC3 and AnthonyP163 like this

My journal featuring most of my ants.

My other journal featuring Formica Bradleyi.

Check our my store here!


#38 Offline gcsnelling - Posted June 12 2018 - 2:50 PM

gcsnelling

    Expert

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,681 posts

Corrrect, any maggots coming from the fly like that will be harmless to your ants.


  • LC3 and AnthonyP163 like this

#39 Offline BobJ - Posted June 12 2018 - 4:37 PM

BobJ

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 24 posts
  • LocationCharleston, SC

Even them I'm pretty sure they are quite specialized and would only lay in swatted grey stripped flesh flies.

Just to clarify, the fly was alive and flying just before I killed it.  It was being eaten alive from the inside and still going about it's business of being a pest.



#40 Offline gcsnelling - Posted June 12 2018 - 5:07 PM

gcsnelling

    Expert

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,681 posts

Probably a Sarcophagidae, a group of flies which give birth to live young. Eggs hatch inside, etc.


  • BobJ likes this




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users