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Queen ant ID request + Other maybe Queen 20 May 2018 Go To Second Page

Started By DrygonKing , May 20 2018 7:55 PM
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Best Answer Batspiderfish , May 24 2018 - 1:01 PM

I'm not totally confident in my Formica ID now that I can see that she is not one solid color, but I'd need to view the hairs on her body to make a more accurate identification.

Your other queen is Myrmica sp.

Don't forget measurements! It's part of the rules for ID requests.

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#21 Offline Canadian anter - Posted May 21 2018 - 6:19 PM

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General consensus is that we need better pics


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#22 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted May 21 2018 - 6:34 PM

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Short antennal scapes and silvery pubescence on three gastral tergites suggests Formica podzolica.


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#23 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 22 2018 - 6:58 AM

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For now should I just call it Formica podzolica?
Got the pics
Queen number one:

http://imgur.com/mtncA5h
http://imgur.com/TygBV74

Mystery ant number 2:
Found in same place. Also same day. Not sure if queen and the species.
http://imgur.com/3XsP7xt
http://imgur.com/UbIbqZU
http://imgur.com/W65bc1i
http://imgur.com/YPCM8kb
http://imgur.com/E1t1RZ4
http://imgur.com/W65bc1i

Edited by DrygonKing, May 23 2018 - 4:22 PM.

Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.

#24 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 24 2018 - 12:35 PM

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Any idea of the other?
Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.

#25 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted May 24 2018 - 1:01 PM   Best Answer

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I'm not totally confident in my Formica ID now that I can see that she is not one solid color, but I'd need to view the hairs on her body to make a more accurate identification.

Your other queen is Myrmica sp.

Don't forget measurements! It's part of the rules for ID requests.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#26 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 24 2018 - 1:09 PM

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Ok. You sure it’s a Queen?
Il get measurements soon
Also that is the best picture I can get with my camera so I’ll go with the first Queen being Formica podzolica.

Edited by DrygonKing, May 24 2018 - 1:16 PM.

Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.

#27 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted May 24 2018 - 1:15 PM

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Ok. You sure it’s a Queen?
Il get measurements soon

Yes. Myrmica typically fly in the late summer and fall, and you can spot queens foraging above ground for their brood in the spring.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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Black lives still matter.

#28 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 24 2018 - 1:17 PM

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Should I feed it then? If it forages itself? And should I find it’s brood as it probably has some?
Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.

#29 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 24 2018 - 1:27 PM

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Oh damn, now I have to get it a out world right? ‍♂
Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.

#30 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 24 2018 - 1:29 PM

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How big should it be?
This is what I was going to avoid with a ton of planing and not rushing.
Things don’t always work I guess lol
(Bashing head on brick wall)

Edited by DrygonKing, May 24 2018 - 1:30 PM.

Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.

#31 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted May 24 2018 - 1:59 PM

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You can just put the test tube in a talcum-lined tupperware or critter-keeper. The size of the out-world won't matter until further along in the colony's growth. My M. rubra probably won't be needing a real foraging arena until their 2nd or 3rd year.

Their favorite available food is Drosophila flies.


Edited by Batspiderfish, May 24 2018 - 2:01 PM.

If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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Black lives still matter.

#32 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 24 2018 - 2:20 PM

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K thanks
Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.

#33 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 24 2018 - 2:29 PM

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I don’t have baby powder can I use olive oil?
Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.

#34 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted May 24 2018 - 2:55 PM

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I wouldn't, but if you need to wait to get baby powder, it's fine for the short-term to feed the queen, on a tray, within the test tube.


Edited by Batspiderfish, May 24 2018 - 2:58 PM.

If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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Black lives still matter.

#35 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 24 2018 - 3:00 PM

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Ok thank you
Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.

#36 Offline Canadian anter - Posted May 24 2018 - 5:04 PM

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I'll agree on Lasius umbratus, a social parasite.


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#37 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted May 24 2018 - 5:18 PM

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It's amazing how much queen 1 looks like Lasius umbratus from these pictures, but I'm pretty sure those are Formica eyes.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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Black lives still matter.

#38 Offline DrygonKing - Posted May 24 2018 - 5:22 PM

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I'll agree on Lasius umbratus, a social parasite.


Queen one has eggs and is looking after them though. She has them all in a pile and has her chin on them protecting them( I did look and she was not eating them). She is to motherly to be a social parasite. Also I hope soooooo bad it’s not because that would be a pain in the but. So I might be a bit biased. :P
Current Queens:
Formica argentea (1)
Camponotus modoc (1)
Camponotus herculeanus (1)

Queens I Have Found:
Lasius alienus
Lasius subumbratus
Formica podzolica
Formica argentea
Formica (parasitic)
Camponotus sp.
Myrmica sp.


Queens currently looking for:
Myrmica spp.


Queens once more experienced:
Carebara diversa
Myrmecocystus
Odontomachus Sp.
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