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#1 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 17 2018 - 12:47 PM

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1. Location of collection: Ulster county NY, US
2. Date of collection: 5.17.18
3. Habitat of collection: the lady I pet sit for has a beautiful backyard, gardens, flowers, it was on the side of her above ground pool, clinging about halfway up the side..
4. Length (from head to gaster): <6mm?
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: the body is black but legs are significantly lighter..a light brown/orange-y carmel color? Same on antennae and mandibles..
6. Distinguishing characteristics: has a point on gaster??
7. Distinguishing behavior: n/a, calm, cleaning itself, can't cling wall well, doesn't appreciate a rollie tt lol
8. Nest description: n/a
9. Nuptial flight time and date: n/a





Edited by StayLoki, May 17 2018 - 1:45 PM.


#2 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 17 2018 - 12:51 PM

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...is it that Chinese ant?
Because of that petiole node??

Edited by StayLoki, May 17 2018 - 12:55 PM.


#3 Offline super_oil - Posted May 17 2018 - 12:53 PM

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Crematogaster Cerasi.


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#4 Offline CNewton - Posted May 17 2018 - 1:00 PM

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I'd like to see a top view before it is confirmed Crematogaster. It looks like it stands higher than a Crematogaster would. Can you get some pics out of the tube? Top and side views?



#5 Offline Canadian anter - Posted May 17 2018 - 1:11 PM

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This is Lasius claviger. It's a bit small though. What do you mean Chinese ants? All ants have petioles.


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#6 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 17 2018 - 1:31 PM

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Edited by StayLoki, May 17 2018 - 1:41 PM.


#7 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 17 2018 - 1:34 PM

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This is Lasius claviger. It's a bit small though. What do you mean Chinese ants? All ants have petioles.

One species of Brachyponera has made it to the us and into ny. The asian needle ant? But what are my chances of finding that? and would put me in a weird place harboring an invasive sp. Lmao

Edited: added link.. https://goo.gl/images/WCu7HR

Edited by StayLoki, May 17 2018 - 1:43 PM.


#8 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 17 2018 - 1:39 PM

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When it toppled on its back trying to climb wall :lol:

You can see the point on gaster ... Can it sting me?? 👀 lol

Edited by StayLoki, May 17 2018 - 2:06 PM.


#9 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 17 2018 - 1:55 PM

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Crematogaster? Brachyponera? What?

 

Your queen is Lasius umbratus.


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#10 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 17 2018 - 1:55 PM

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Edited by StayLoki, May 17 2018 - 1:57 PM.


#11 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 17 2018 - 2:02 PM

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Thanks void. Another lasius. .
I suppose she does look like that lol
They're parasitic no?

Edited by StayLoki, May 17 2018 - 2:05 PM.


#12 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 17 2018 - 2:13 PM

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Thanks void. Another lasius. .
I suppose she does look like that lol
They're parasitic no?

 

L. umbratus are temporary social parasites. Correct.



#13 Offline super_oil - Posted May 17 2018 - 2:13 PM

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Ouch, I'm so bad at IDing :(


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#14 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 17 2018 - 2:24 PM

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^I could see how you thought it was Crematogaster but it doesn't quiiite look like that when I googled them... I just looked up 'ants of new york state' and thought I had an invasive spec don't worry about it ;)
heyyyy it's what it looked closest too, so don't judge me, I'm only familiar with the pavement ant and lasius flavus. Been picking up carpenter ants but they're all majors, still searching for a Camponotous queen and found this instead..I guess they find you. .

#15 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted May 17 2018 - 6:58 PM

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Your queen is Lasius umbratus.

How can you tell? Most of the Lasius social parasites look the same to me.


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#16 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 18 2018 - 2:32 AM

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^I think for umbratus a lot of the id'ing is in the head shape, and although they vary in color, the way its lighter on its legs? But maybe Void will chime in.. Id like to know so me key pts for next time Void!! lol

ANYONE IN NY AND INTERESTED IN BUYING HER?
I'm not sure I'm up for what it takes to found her, so pm me if your interested?
~loki

#17 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted May 18 2018 - 4:54 AM

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I would totally buy it if I lived in NY. I've been searching for umbratus group Lasius.



#18 Offline StayLoki - Posted May 18 2018 - 8:37 PM

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bummer lol




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