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#1 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 25 2018 - 8:32 AM

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I need to know what Formica spp. Formica obscuripes parasitize. I have two queens that won't accept F. pacifica or F. lasioides pupae!!! 

 

 

 



#2 Offline T.C. - Posted April 25 2018 - 8:47 AM

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Please be more specific in your title. They are social parasites of Formica fusca. So I'm not surprised they wouldn't accept other species.


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#3 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 25 2018 - 11:05 AM

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But Formica pacifica are members of the Formica fusca group. That is why I am confused about why they didn't accept the F. pacifica pupae. Maybe my ID on them is wrong. Maybe they are not Formica pacifica.


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#4 Offline T.C. - Posted April 25 2018 - 11:33 AM

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Ok, but Formica pacifica is not  Formica fusca.



#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 25 2018 - 12:32 PM

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I read on antwiki that any F. fusca group sp. would work. Now my queens are going to die because i have no host. :*( Actually, I found a colony of Formica fusca on GAN! Maybe I am not doomed to fail after all!


Edited by Ant_Dude2908, April 25 2018 - 12:35 PM.


#6 Offline sirjordanncurtis - Posted April 25 2018 - 2:00 PM

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You have to actually give the lasius queens workers. The queen are not capable of caring for any type of brood before they receive workers. They can not cut open pupae or feed larvae on their own.

Edit: Never mind, I'm an idiot


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#7 Offline Derpy - Posted April 25 2018 - 2:49 PM

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You have to actually give the lasius queens workers. The queen are not capable of caring for any type of brood before they receive workers. They can not cut open pupae or feed larvae on their own.

Ummmm. They are talking about Formica not Lasuis.

Edited by Derpy, April 25 2018 - 2:49 PM.

-1x Parasitic Formica Sp. Colony

-1x Pogonomymrex Californicus Colony

-1x Camponotus Hyatti Colony

 


#8 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 25 2018 - 7:45 PM

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I have four of these queens now. I gave all but one queen a Formica obscuripes worker and since they are sisters, they are getting along. Maybe, since the queen has her sisters, she will think they were budding and not need a host. :thinking:


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#9 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted April 25 2018 - 9:31 PM

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I have four of these queens now. I gave all but one queen a Formica obscuripes worker and since they are sisters, they are getting along. Maybe, since the queen has her sisters, she will think they were budding and not need a host. :thinking:

Works for Drew's captive bred Pogonomyrmex. Try digging up a portion of a F. fusca nest and stealing some pupae for your queen.

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#10 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 26 2018 - 6:52 AM

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I can't find F. fusca.



#11 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 29 2018 - 7:43 PM

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Ok, so I got some workers of the parent Formica obscuripes colony and gave them to my queens. Now a few days later, two of the "colonies" have eggs! The makeshift budding idea worked! :yahoo:  :yahoo:  


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#12 Offline nurbs - Posted April 29 2018 - 7:55 PM

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It shouldn't work, but have gotten parasitic Fomica to accept Lasius brood.

 


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#13 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 29 2018 - 8:02 PM

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It shouldn't work, but have gotten parasitic Fomica to accept Lasius brood.

 

Yeah, I have read your journal and have always wondered: How does that work?!



#14 Offline nurbs - Posted April 29 2018 - 8:39 PM

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It shouldn't work, but have gotten parasitic Fomica to accept Lasius brood.

 

Yeah, I have read your journal and have always wondered: How does that work?!

 

 

Heck if I know. Didn't even know they were lasius brood til they eclosed.


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Unidentified Myrmecocystus

https://www.formicul...ls-near-desert/

 

Undescribed "Modoc"

https://www.formicul...mp-ca-5-4-2017/

 

Camponotus or Colobopsis yogi:

https://www.formicul...a-ca-1-28-2018/

 
Camponotus us-ca02
https://www.formicul...onotus-us-ca02/

 

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https://www.formicul...l-ca-6-27-2020/

 
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https://www.formicul...m-and-outworld/
 
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#15 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted May 4 2018 - 6:11 PM

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I just got three more queens and nine workers! Four workers are minors, one median and four majors! They have settled in nicely. I put them all in one test tube.





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