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[CatLord]

So there was this ENORMOUS line of crematogaster s.p ants that went from the ground to a roof of a building and continued and i was looking arround and i found what looks like a crematogaster queen? she was walking arround the line and when i went to catch her she run and went throught the like with no ants atacking when i caught her a workers went in the test tube and is still there they have not atacked each other or anything i live in Greece 

 

Image: https://imgur.com/a/CQ2QS6o

[VoidElecent]

Yep, that looks like a queen. Chances are you caught her moving nesting locations.

[CatLord]

Yep, that looks like a queen. Chances are you caught her moving nesting locations.

Should i go catch some workers from that colony?there are a lot so she can have like a boost?

[LC3]

When catching a queen from an established colony always catch as many workers as possible. For the queen’s sake (since queens from mature colonies are use to being taken care of) and for the sake of the wild colony which would be effectively dead with their queen removed.

[dermy]

As lc3 has stated you need to go back and get as much of the Colony you got this queen from as possible. It is also worth getting any brood you can from the colony.

 

 

Also, just curious as to why you posted this in the ID Forum, if it was for an ID I would suggest formatting a post with this guide in mind:

http://www.formicult...t-a-new-thread/

 

If not I can move it to the general ant-keeping forum if it's not for an ID Request.

[Jonathan21700]

This is Camponotus btw. 

Edited by Jonathan21700, April 28 2018 - 11:26 AM.

[Canadian anter]

Crematogaster are pretty easy to ID, I would assume that she is diiferent from the workers. They don't attack immediately, you know.

[VoidElecent]

This is Camponotus btw. 

 

I believe this is Crematogaster.

 

Crematogaster are pretty easy to ID, I would assume that she is diiferent from the workers. They don't attack immediately, you know.

 

Crematogaster are actually some of the toughest ants to ID; there are only a couple species native to Philly and it's nearly impossible to differentiate between C. cerasi and C. lineolata. I would assume it is equally as difficult in Europe.

Edited by VoidElecent, April 28 2018 - 4:42 PM.

[Canadian anter]

I meant to the genus

[123LordOfAnts123]

This is Camponotus btw.

 
I believe this is Crematogaster.
 

Crematogaster are pretty easy to ID, I would assume that she is diiferent from the workers. They don't attack immediately, you know.

 
Crematogaster are actually some of the toughest ants to ID; there are only a couple species native to Philly and it's nearly impossible to differentiate between C. cerasi and C. lineolata. I would assume it is equally as difficult in Europe.

Species-wise, you’re correct. Identifying the genus itself is normally pretty straightforward.

It’s hard to make out from the pictures, but this queen appears to have a single node; immediately ruling out Crematogaster.

[VoidElecent]

Species-wise, you’re correct. Identifying the genus itself is normally pretty straightforward.

It’s hard to make out from the pictures, but this queen appears to have a single node; immediately ruling out Crematogaster.

 

This is what I believed at first, but if the queen was a different species than the Crematogaster workers CatLord initially found, there very likely would have been some degree of hostility. 

 

Can you get photos of the queen from different angles?

Edited by VoidElecent, April 28 2018 - 6:18 PM.

[Salmon]

Crematogaster queens' waists are shaped in such a way that they can be folded forward, giving the appearance of a single node from above.

 

Here's an example:

 

[Canadian anter]

I think the overall message here is just that we need better pics.

[Jonathan21700]

Did they look like this? Camponotus lateralis for example often gets confused with Crematogaster.

Edited by Jonathan21700, April 29 2018 - 1:30 PM.