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#1 Offline MatthewPL - Posted April 21 2018 - 11:13 PM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,

I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right. 

Let's start from the beginning:

A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.

Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.

This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me... 



#2 Offline Barristan - Posted April 21 2018 - 11:45 PM

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How old is your Lasius niger colony? I don't think they died from aging. How warm do you keep them? Has the test tube still enough water? What did you feed them?


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#3 Offline Enderz - Posted April 22 2018 - 12:19 AM

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Well 3 failures doesn't seem like too much of a deal, many people have had more failures. Just try again until you succeed that's my advice.


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#4 Offline Serafine - Posted April 22 2018 - 12:33 AM

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How old is your Lasius niger colony? I don't think they died from aging. How warm do you keep them? Has the test tube still enough water? What did you feed them?

This. Give us some infomation about your setup and what you're doing and we might be able to help you.

 

If you feed and care for a Lasius niger correctly they can explode in size very very quickly, one worker and two larvae is more than enough to continue - with good care they can grow to over 500 workers in just a few months.


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#5 Offline KBant - Posted April 22 2018 - 1:15 AM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,
This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me...


You’re gonna go far bro. Love the enthusiasm, perseverance and positivity.
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#6 Offline dermy - Posted April 22 2018 - 1:29 AM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,

I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right. 

Let's start from the beginning:

A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.

Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.

This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me... 

Take it from me, ant keeping can be really hard sometimes, it's all about luck patience and keeping at it. Just last year I lost 100% of my ants and I'm still gonna at least try again this year, knowing FULL WELL that 80% will probably be killed. At least you don't have kids killing your colonies like I do.

 

Give it another try it's the perfect time to try too :D


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#7 Offline nurbs - Posted April 22 2018 - 1:34 AM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,

I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right. 

Let's start from the beginning:

A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.

Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.

This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me... 

 

Antkeeping isn't easy, but also not hard. You barely even started. Keep trying!


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#8 Offline Skwiggledork - Posted April 22 2018 - 4:19 AM

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I am batting 50% loss on my 4 queens so far, not counting the worker I thought was a queen or the drone I thought was a queen and I've only been collecting since September. I think if you read any account of beginner ant keeping heavy losses are the name of the game, and make the first surviving colony that much sweeter.



#9 Offline GeorgeK - Posted April 22 2018 - 7:26 AM

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My first colony died of mite infestation, i drowned two more... But now i have 4 colonies, all going strong, so i guess don't give up, just like with everything else in life.



#10 Offline Mortamir - Posted April 22 2018 - 7:37 AM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,
I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right.
Let's start from the beginning:
A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.
Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.
This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me...


Don't give a [censored]. Want to quit? Peace. You want a shoulder rub? Join a massage pallor. If you are to ignorant to take care of something, don't. Derp.
So many 12 years old on this [censored].

#11 Offline dermy - Posted April 22 2018 - 8:20 AM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,
I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right.
Let's start from the beginning:
A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.
Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.
This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me...


Don't give a [censored]. Want to quit? Peace. You want a shoulder rub? Join a massage pallor. If you are to ignorant to take care of something, don't. Derp.
So many 12 years old on this [censored].

 

Dude calm down, I don't think the forum or anyone wants to see this sort of stuff. I think we should keep the discussion to explaining that hey ant keeping isn't all roses and rainbows instead of bashing each-other that's how hobbies and stuff crash out.


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#12 Offline KBant - Posted April 22 2018 - 8:22 AM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,
I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right.
Let's start from the beginning:
A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.
Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.
This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me...


Don't give a [censored]. Want to quit? Peace. You want a shoulder rub? Join a massage pallor. If you are to ignorant to take care of something, don't. Derp.
So many 12 years old on this [censored].

Whoa man...chill.

#13 Offline GeorgeK - Posted April 22 2018 - 8:52 AM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,
I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right.
Let's start from the beginning:
A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.
Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.
This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me...


Don't give a [censored]. Want to quit? Peace. You want a shoulder rub? Join a massage pallor. If you are to ignorant to take care of something, don't. Derp.
So many 12 years old on this [censored].

 

Talking about 12 year olds :lol:


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#14 Offline T.C. - Posted April 22 2018 - 9:19 AM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,
I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right.
Let's start from the beginning:
A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.
Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.
This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me...


Don't give a [censored]. Want to quit? Peace. You want a shoulder rub? Join a massage pallor. If you are to ignorant to take care of something, don't. Derp.
So many 12 years old on this [censored].

Yeah, let's take it easy.


@MatthewPL, my first queens I managed to catch all died, the first and second year. I had caught over 10. It's a learning curve. Just do your research and I recommend not buying ants without workers from other people. It can take a few times to get a good mature colony.
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#15 Offline Canadian anter - Posted April 22 2018 - 9:37 AM

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Hello my dear forum-friends,
I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right.
Let's start from the beginning:
A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.
Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.
This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me...


Don't give a [censored]. Want to quit? Peace. You want a shoulder rub? Join a massage pallor. If you are to ignorant to take care of something, don't. Derp.
So many 12 years old on this [censored].

 

Ouch.

 

@MatthewPL, I would have quit at least 25 times if I stopped after two queens


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#16 Offline anttics - Posted April 22 2018 - 12:19 PM

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Don't sweat it kid. You took the wrong path. I started keeping ants 6 months ago. Before I started. I learn all I could. I was also lucky to get my colonie from a helpful gan member. Who answer the basic questions to get me going. I SUGGEST you read all you can about this species, and the journals which helped me a lot. On how to care for my veromessor which are the easiest ants to keep for a bigginer. Thus year I started with acamponotus species. Which has some eggs that have not grown in more than a month. 90% chance she is infertile or.maybe eating her eggs. If she fails I rinse and repeat. It's not big deal. You learn be error.

#17 Offline Ants_Texas - Posted April 22 2018 - 1:12 PM

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I spent $220 on an Odontomachus haematodus colony. They all died within two weeks for no apparent reason, but I wasn't surprised. You learn to deal with these things as you continue along your antkeeping. So, metaphorically, you're skin gets thicker as you go on. 

 

Basically, your first few losses with hurt pretty badly. However, once you rear some successful colonies to keep you company, you'll be less upset about it and be ready to try again. I promise you that if everyone here quit after two queens died, none of use would be here.


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#18 Offline StayLoki - Posted April 22 2018 - 1:41 PM

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Don't give a [censored]. Want to quit? Peace. You want a shoulder rub? Join a massage pallor. If you are to ignorant to take care of something, don't. Derp.
So many 12 years old on this [censored].

Talking about 12 year olds :lol:
WHOA did I join a call of duty match?!
Deja vu :lol:

*I just wanted to add, a game comes with an age rating; keeping ants, or any critter interest, doesn't matter to a young child...there are some very smart and interested kids out there who may use this forum, and it should be kept clean

If you wanna talk like that, go bust some headshots on cod :P

Edited by StayLoki, April 22 2018 - 2:00 PM.

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#19 Offline StayLoki - Posted April 22 2018 - 1:50 PM

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@Matthew.. Ant husbandry has so many unknowns. It still has unknowns even to 'experts'! People with PhDs are still trying to find out what makes certain species successful or not, so don't be discouraged.
I mean if you're losing interest in the hobby then so be it..but if you still want to keep trying this forum is a great resource, and there's a website to buy legit queens from instead of dudes in your neighborhood :X
Good luck mate!
Don't let nothin' get you down ;)

Edited by StayLoki, April 22 2018 - 1:52 PM.


#20 Offline Chicken_eater100 - Posted April 22 2018 - 7:12 PM

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I had a pheidole queen that died, I caught a tetramorium queen that got decapitated my mom, a camponotus queen that I caught died during hibernation and almost lost my lasius neoniger queen from a test tube flood.

Hello my dear forum-friends,
I was thinking about this decision for a long time, and I don't know if this is right.
Let's start from the beginning:
A year ago I bought a lasius flavus queen with no workers. She died in 5 months.
Now I have Lasius Niger queen, who had 15 or 16 workers that died from aging and my queen didn't produce any new workers. Guys that I bought her from told me that it was good to put them into a formicarium, but I read that it was not. Now the queen is in test tube with one worker and two larvae.
This is why I quit, because everything and everyone were against me...

Don't give a [censored]. Want to quit? Peace. You want a shoulder rub? Join a massage pallor. If you are to ignorant to take care of something, don't. Derp.
So many 12 years old on this [censored].
Ow.

Edited by Chicken_eater100, April 22 2018 - 7:14 PM.





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