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#1 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 10 2018 - 12:06 PM

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Can anyone give any information they know abt myrmica rubra here coz there’s not much guise on them on formiculture. Thx

#2 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted April 10 2018 - 12:55 PM

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They are semi-claustral so you'll need to feed them throughout their founding stage. At first you can start feeding her sugar foods like sugar water and honey. After her larva come you will need to feed her some protein such as cricket legs or a small piece of mealworm. The queen may likely forage with the workers which can be quite fun to watch.



#3 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 11 2018 - 9:17 AM

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They are semi-claustral so you'll need to feed them throughout their founding stage. At first you can start feeding her sugar foods like sugar water and honey. After her larva come you will need to feed her some protein such as cricket legs or a small piece of mealworm. The queen may likely forage with the workers which can be quite fun to watch.

are they polymorphic? cause some of the workers are larger than the others..



#4 Offline Canadian anter - Posted April 11 2018 - 9:31 AM

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Myrmica rubra are not polymorphic. They have a wide diet and temperature range and require very high humidity.


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#5 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 11 2018 - 9:37 AM

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how long does it take from egg to worker?



#6 Offline Barristan - Posted April 11 2018 - 11:08 AM

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It is hard to say and it depends on the temperature you keep them at. In a German forum, they say 1.5 months:

 

Entwicklungsdauer
Arbeiterinnen: ca. 1,5 Monate

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how long does it take from egg to worker?

It takes very little time from pupae to worker but it takes a good while for egg to pupa


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#8 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 11 2018 - 2:09 PM

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can i like remove 2 queens from and 8 queen colony and put them into a different set up with some of their workers? or will they die off? and like after a period of time can you re introduce them together?



#9 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted April 11 2018 - 2:39 PM

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can i like remove 2 queens from and 8 queen colony and put them into a different set up with some of their workers? or will they die off? and like after a period of time can you re introduce them together?

From what I know this method is viable, but make sure you collect workers and if possible brood.



#10 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 11 2018 - 2:41 PM

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can i like remove 2 queens from and 8 queen colony and put them into a different set up with some of their workers? or will they die off? and like after a period of time can you re introduce them together?

From what I know this method is viable, but make sure you collect workers and if possible brood.

 

can i like introduce them back together in the future?



#11 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted April 11 2018 - 2:50 PM

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can i like remove 2 queens from and 8 queen colony and put them into a different set up with some of their workers? or will they die off? and like after a period of time can you re introduce them together?

From what I know this method is viable, but make sure you collect workers and if possible brood.

 

can i like introduce them back together in the future?

 

You mean if you collect say 2 queens and 20 workers, you mean collect more workers and queens from the wild? If so then I'm pretty sure they will, considering they form somewhat "super colonies" in the wild.



#12 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 11 2018 - 2:51 PM

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like i put back the 2 separate colonies into one 



#13 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted April 11 2018 - 2:54 PM

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I'd say test it with a few workers first. If they accept each other then it should be safe.



#14 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 11 2018 - 2:57 PM

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oh ok thx so much



#15 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 11 2018 - 3:00 PM

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now i have 3 myrmica colonies 1 with 4 queens and 2 with 2 queens



#16 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted April 11 2018 - 3:02 PM

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Also Myrmica rubra shouldn't be in Canada.



#17 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 11 2018 - 3:31 PM

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well its some time of myrmica XD



#18 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 11 2018 - 4:05 PM

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how many eggs does a myrmica queen lay a day? like an average. or does no one know?



#19 Offline PwnerPie - Posted April 12 2018 - 7:56 AM

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My Myrmica is not extremely active as far as egg laying. Definitely seems to take a long time for the brood to go from egg to worker, almost as long as camponotus (they are provided heat, but still take forever). Almost 2 months for egg to worker. 

 

They definitely lay far less than formica, from my experience I would relate them more to camponotus in terms of egg layings and time to worker.

 

FYI, very hard to ID Myrmica. I live in WA, there are a few main options, but nearly impossible to ID. Thinking I have incompleta, can't be sure tho.


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1x Formica Pacifica
2x Camponotus Modoc
1x Tetramorium Immigrans
2x Lasius Sp
 
Founding:
3x Lasius Sp
2x Formica Argentea
2x Myrmica Rubra
 
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Goal: Supply school science classes with colonies for learning.

#20 Offline ken14400 - Posted April 12 2018 - 10:04 AM

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how old does the colony have to be until they are able to produce alates? 






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