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Need to move a colony but it was never covered when I bought it
I recently purchased a Tetramorium colony and they were not covered while developing. There is about 50 workers and some brood. The test tube is black with mold and the water is starting to turn yellow, also the water supply is very low. I need help with how to move them to a new tube. the queen and some brood are there but the workers have not moved in.
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You can cover them for a week or sk and suddenly expose them to light.
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You can pick up the brood with a toothpick coated with a light layer of honey/saliva, and place them into a new tube. Then shake the workers and queen into a baggie. Refrigerate them and shake them into a corner of the ziplock bag. Then tip the contents of that corner into a tube.
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Endemic Lacewing larva
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You can pick up the brood with a toothpick coated with a light layer of honey/saliva, and place them into a new tube. Then shake the workers and queen into a baggie. Refrigerate them and shake them into a corner of the ziplock bag. Then tip the contents of that corner into a tube.
I do not recomend to move the brood unless it is vital,because there's a big chance to dammage them and their development
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Althought,maybe a drop of honey ,a cover for the new place and an slight aument in the temperature could help you moving htem
Either use heat or a direct light from a flash light or something similar. Tetramorium seem to be rather sensitive to sudden heat. Last weekend I put a heating pack that I was using in my shoes ( because it was freezing a$$ cold) and on top of their nest. Within 15 minutes a colony of 100+ with brood had moved into the outworld. I took it off and put a light on their outworld. They then moved back into the nest. Both moves occurred within 15 minutes.
You can pick up the brood with a toothpick coated with a light layer of honey/saliva, and place them into a new tube. Then shake the workers and queen into a baggie. Refrigerate them and shake them into a corner of the ziplock bag. Then tip the contents of that corner into a tube.
I do not recomend to move the brood unless it is vital,because there's a big chance to dammage them and their development
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Althought,maybe a drop of honey ,a cover for the new place and an slight aument in the temperature could help you moving htem
Maybe its just me. I have REALLY good hand-eye coordination, and I've never lost a single egg with this process. I'm pretty experienced with the art of ant-keeping, anyway (three years, not that long in truth)
Hawaiiant (Ben)
Keeper of Miniature Labradoodle Baby Wolf Spider Mud Dauber wasp larvae Ochetellus Glaber Solenopsis Geminata Brachymyrmex Obscurior Cardiocondyla Emeryi Tetramorium Bicarinatum Plagiolepis Alluaudi Anoplolepis Gracilipes Technomyrmex Difficilis Pheidole Megacephala Aholehole fish Cowrie snail Sea Fan Worm 100+ sea squirts Tree seedlings Ghost Crab Day Gecko Small Fat Centipede
Endemic Lacewing larva
Vernal Pool shrimps
You can pick up the brood with a toothpick coated with a light layer of honey/saliva, and place them into a new tube. Then shake the workers and queen into a baggie. Refrigerate them and shake them into a corner of the ziplock bag. Then tip the contents of that corner into a tube.
I do not recomend to move the brood unless it is vital,because there's a big chance to dammage them and their development
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Althought,maybe a drop of honey ,a cover for the new place and an slight aument in the temperature could help you moving htem
Maybe its just me. I have REALLY good hand-eye coordination, and I've never lost a single egg with this process. I'm pretty experienced with the art of ant-keeping, anyway (three years, not that long in truth)
Yeah,but I mean,if you aren't too experiencied or good,its very dangerous and you could loose the colony's nurses/workers
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Posted December 13 2017 - 4:36 AM
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You can pick up the brood with a toothpick coated with a light layer of honey/saliva, and place them into a new tube. Then shake the workers and queen into a baggie. Refrigerate them and shake them into a corner of the ziplock bag. Then tip the contents of that corner into a tube.
I do not recomend to move the brood unless it is vital,because there's a big chance to dammage them and their development
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Althought,maybe a drop of honey ,a cover for the new place and an slight aument in the temperature could help you moving htem
Maybe its just me. I have REALLY good hand-eye coordination, and I've never lost a single egg with this process. I'm pretty experienced with the art of ant-keeping, anyway (three years, not that long in truth)
Yeah,but I mean,if you aren't too experiencied or good,its very dangerous and you could loose the colony's nurses/workers
It happened to me once
Yeah, it's just me. I never lose workers, probably because I put an hour of my time carefully transporting the colony.
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Keeper of Miniature Labradoodle Baby Wolf Spider Mud Dauber wasp larvae Ochetellus Glaber Solenopsis Geminata Brachymyrmex Obscurior Cardiocondyla Emeryi Tetramorium Bicarinatum Plagiolepis Alluaudi Anoplolepis Gracilipes Technomyrmex Difficilis Pheidole Megacephala Aholehole fish Cowrie snail Sea Fan Worm 100+ sea squirts Tree seedlings Ghost Crab Day Gecko Small Fat Centipede
Endemic Lacewing larva
Vernal Pool shrimps
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Posted December 13 2017 - 5:38 AM
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You can pick up the brood with a toothpick coated with a light layer of honey/saliva, and place them into a new tube. Then shake the workers and queen into a baggie. Refrigerate them and shake them into a corner of the ziplock bag. Then tip the contents of that corner into a tube.
That is a terrible idea and most antkeepers will utterly fail when trying this. Also there are species that will go completely berzerk when you try that.
Just put their tube INTO a larger tube (30x200mm test tubes work fine for this), cover the large tube part and wait for them to move. Most likely after a few days you can take out the old tube.
Edited by Serafine, December 13 2017 - 5:39 AM.
We should respect all forms of consciousness. The body is just a vessel, a mere hull.
I have hundreds of colonies. Takes me less than 10 seconds to transfer a large colony from one test tube to another. I should make a video. Might shock some of you. But it works.
I have hundreds of colonies. Takes me less than 10 seconds to transfer a large colony from one test tube to another. I should make a video. Might shock some of you. But it works.
Looking forward to seeing your mystery technique!
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I moved them thanks for the techniques, i covered them for around 3 days and moved them into a new tube. also i would love to see your technique Nurbs i am subscribed and it would be so useful.
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I have hundreds of colonies. Takes me less than 10 seconds to transfer a large colony from one test tube to another. I should make a video. Might shock some of you. But it works.
Looking forward to seeing your mystery technique!
Was feeding and cleaning today, and almost forgot to make a recording. So here it is.
I know you all have questions.
Does this stress out the ants?!
Yes. Probably worse. Apocalypse, the end of the world, all that stuff.
Does this kill the ants?
No. I've done this hundreds of times. Things that ants are sensitive to and will kill them are usually scent based - like paints or alcohol. Or poisonous food. Quick jerky movements for a short burst will not harm them.
But, BUT! Does this kill the ants?!
No. Not even one worker.
What if brood sticks to the test tube?
Moist wet qtip.
But, does this kill the ants?
No.
I don't want to stress them out!
It's OK. A little bit of stress in life is healthy.
I have hundreds of colonies. Takes me less than 10 seconds to transfer a large colony from one test tube to another. I should make a video. Might shock some of you. But it works.
Looking forward to seeing your mystery technique!
Was feeding and cleaning today, and almost forgot to make a recording. So here it is.
I know you all have questions.
Does this stress out the ants?!
Yes. Probably worse. Apocalypse, the end of the world, all that stuff.
Does this kill the ants?
No. I've done this hundreds of times. Things that ants are sensitive to and will kill them are usually scent based - like paints or alcohol. Or poisonous food. Quick jerky movements for a short burst will not harm them.
But, BUT! Does this kill the ants?!
No. Not even one worker.
What if brood sticks to the test tube?
Moist wet qtip.
But, does this kill the ants?
No.
I don't want to stress them out!
It's OK. A little bit of stress in life is healthy.
Any questions? Class dismissed.
This is what I do when I run out of toothpicks xD
Your collection is awesome!
Edited by Connectimyrmex, December 25 2017 - 6:54 PM.
Hawaiiant (Ben)
Keeper of Miniature Labradoodle Baby Wolf Spider Mud Dauber wasp larvae Ochetellus Glaber Solenopsis Geminata Brachymyrmex Obscurior Cardiocondyla Emeryi Tetramorium Bicarinatum Plagiolepis Alluaudi Anoplolepis Gracilipes Technomyrmex Difficilis Pheidole Megacephala Aholehole fish Cowrie snail Sea Fan Worm 100+ sea squirts Tree seedlings Ghost Crab Day Gecko Small Fat Centipede
Endemic Lacewing larva
Vernal Pool shrimps
I have hundreds of colonies. Takes me less than 10 seconds to transfer a large colony from one test tube to another. I should make a video. Might shock some of you. But it works.
Looking forward to seeing your mystery technique!
Was feeding and cleaning today, and almost forgot to make a recording. So here it is.
I know you all have questions.
Does this stress out the ants?!
Yes. Probably worse. Apocalypse, the end of the world, all that stuff.
Does this kill the ants?
No. I've done this hundreds of times. Things that ants are sensitive to and will kill them are usually scent based - like paints or alcohol. Or poisonous food. Quick jerky movements for a short burst will not harm them.
But, BUT! Does this kill the ants?!
No. Not even one worker.
What if brood sticks to the test tube?
Moist wet qtip.
But, does this kill the ants?
No.
I don't want to stress them out!
It's OK. A little bit of stress in life is healthy.