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Crematogaster Cerasi?


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#1 Offline Diesel - Posted January 7 2018 - 2:16 PM

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Need help IDing this queen caught in Maine in July. Size is approx 1/4 inch. She has what appears to be little spikes around where her wing scars are. Thorax and gaster are attached by a long thin segment.

Ant Species kept

 

Temnothorax Longispinosus.-Journal(discontinued)-(formerly)

Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Camponotus Nearticus-formerly

Tetramorium sp.-formerly

Camponotus Pennsylvanicus Queen & brood.-formerly

Tapinoma Sessile-Journal (3 queen colony)-formerly

​Tapinoma  Sessile #2 (2 queen colony)-formerly

Aphaenogaster Picea-Journal-active

Crematogaster sp.(Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with 3 workers and brood-formerly

​Crematogaster sp. #2 (Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with brood-formerly

Formica sp. polygenus-active 300+ workers-active

Formica Subsericea-active 25+ workers-active

Myrmica Rubra 400+ workers 3 queens-active


#2 Offline Diesel - Posted January 7 2018 - 2:17 PM

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Ant Species kept

 

Temnothorax Longispinosus.-Journal(discontinued)-(formerly)

Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Camponotus Nearticus-formerly

Tetramorium sp.-formerly

Camponotus Pennsylvanicus Queen & brood.-formerly

Tapinoma Sessile-Journal (3 queen colony)-formerly

​Tapinoma  Sessile #2 (2 queen colony)-formerly

Aphaenogaster Picea-Journal-active

Crematogaster sp.(Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with 3 workers and brood-formerly

​Crematogaster sp. #2 (Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with brood-formerly

Formica sp. polygenus-active 300+ workers-active

Formica Subsericea-active 25+ workers-active

Myrmica Rubra 400+ workers 3 queens-active


#3 Offline Diesel - Posted January 7 2018 - 2:19 PM

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Ant Species kept

 

Temnothorax Longispinosus.-Journal(discontinued)-(formerly)

Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Camponotus Nearticus-formerly

Tetramorium sp.-formerly

Camponotus Pennsylvanicus Queen & brood.-formerly

Tapinoma Sessile-Journal (3 queen colony)-formerly

​Tapinoma  Sessile #2 (2 queen colony)-formerly

Aphaenogaster Picea-Journal-active

Crematogaster sp.(Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with 3 workers and brood-formerly

​Crematogaster sp. #2 (Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with brood-formerly

Formica sp. polygenus-active 300+ workers-active

Formica Subsericea-active 25+ workers-active

Myrmica Rubra 400+ workers 3 queens-active


#4 Offline noebl1 - Posted January 7 2018 - 2:25 PM

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That's a pretty early Crematogaster flight as mine flew in September here in MA.  However that gaster looks about the right shape.



#5 Offline FeedTheAnts - Posted January 7 2018 - 2:46 PM

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Totally Crematogaster, you probably already knew that though. I can't say whether it is cerasi, though.


I accidentally froze all my ants 


#6 Offline Penguin - Posted January 7 2018 - 3:52 PM

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I wish I found ANY Crematogaster Spp. all of the late flyers (but parasitic Lasius.... :dash:) seemed to be elusive to me in my first year (Probably just me) but good luck with finding a concrete ID.  :)


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I'm here to learn, mostly. 

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#7 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted January 7 2018 - 4:14 PM

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I wish I found ANY Crematogaster Spp. 

Same. All the Crematogaster around here are very elusive. I've been searching for them since I started ant keeping.



#8 Offline noebl1 - Posted January 7 2018 - 4:23 PM

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I've been looking for a couple years, and just happened to be WFH one day this Sept, and got super lucky.  They were attracted to a kid's green kiddy pool so easy to spot walking around it (or catch floating in the water.)  I live in the woods, and rarely been lucky enough to see them in the wild except once or twice.  They apparently are known for farming aphids on cherry trees (which there are some on our property).



#9 Offline Diesel - Posted January 7 2018 - 5:45 PM

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I've only ever found 2 queens but have found multiple colonies


Ant Species kept

 

Temnothorax Longispinosus.-Journal(discontinued)-(formerly)

Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Camponotus Nearticus-formerly

Tetramorium sp.-formerly

Camponotus Pennsylvanicus Queen & brood.-formerly

Tapinoma Sessile-Journal (3 queen colony)-formerly

​Tapinoma  Sessile #2 (2 queen colony)-formerly

Aphaenogaster Picea-Journal-active

Crematogaster sp.(Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with 3 workers and brood-formerly

​Crematogaster sp. #2 (Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with brood-formerly

Formica sp. polygenus-active 300+ workers-active

Formica Subsericea-active 25+ workers-active

Myrmica Rubra 400+ workers 3 queens-active


#10 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted January 7 2018 - 5:48 PM

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Our Crematogaster can't be identified without a clear look at the pronotum (top-front of the thorax), showing off the length of the hairs.


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If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#11 Offline Diesel - Posted January 7 2018 - 5:51 PM

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how many varieties do we have in Maine Bat?


Ant Species kept

 

Temnothorax Longispinosus.-Journal(discontinued)-(formerly)

Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Camponotus Nearticus-formerly

Tetramorium sp.-formerly

Camponotus Pennsylvanicus Queen & brood.-formerly

Tapinoma Sessile-Journal (3 queen colony)-formerly

​Tapinoma  Sessile #2 (2 queen colony)-formerly

Aphaenogaster Picea-Journal-active

Crematogaster sp.(Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with 3 workers and brood-formerly

​Crematogaster sp. #2 (Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with brood-formerly

Formica sp. polygenus-active 300+ workers-active

Formica Subsericea-active 25+ workers-active

Myrmica Rubra 400+ workers 3 queens-active


#12 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted January 7 2018 - 6:04 PM

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Just the two, Crematogaster cerasi and C. lineolata.


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If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#13 Offline Diesel - Posted January 7 2018 - 6:10 PM

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great thanks. I'm leaning towards cerasi. I did have one queen I caught and released that I was certain was lineolata. either way I'm looking forward to see if she produces this year after hibernation. she'll be coming out in March.


Ant Species kept

 

Temnothorax Longispinosus.-Journal(discontinued)-(formerly)

Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Camponotus Nearticus-formerly

Tetramorium sp.-formerly

Camponotus Pennsylvanicus Queen & brood.-formerly

Tapinoma Sessile-Journal (3 queen colony)-formerly

​Tapinoma  Sessile #2 (2 queen colony)-formerly

Aphaenogaster Picea-Journal-active

Crematogaster sp.(Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with 3 workers and brood-formerly

​Crematogaster sp. #2 (Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with brood-formerly

Formica sp. polygenus-active 300+ workers-active

Formica Subsericea-active 25+ workers-active

Myrmica Rubra 400+ workers 3 queens-active


#14 Offline Hunter - Posted January 8 2018 - 7:22 AM

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lol is that the one i gave you



#15 Offline Diesel - Posted January 8 2018 - 8:35 AM

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yes it is. the 2 varieties in Maine are so close i can't tell em apart.


Ant Species kept

 

Temnothorax Longispinosus.-Journal(discontinued)-(formerly)

Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Camponotus Nearticus-formerly

Tetramorium sp.-formerly

Camponotus Pennsylvanicus Queen & brood.-formerly

Tapinoma Sessile-Journal (3 queen colony)-formerly

​Tapinoma  Sessile #2 (2 queen colony)-formerly

Aphaenogaster Picea-Journal-active

Crematogaster sp.(Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with 3 workers and brood-formerly

​Crematogaster sp. #2 (Cerasi or Lineolata) Queen with brood-formerly

Formica sp. polygenus-active 300+ workers-active

Formica Subsericea-active 25+ workers-active

Myrmica Rubra 400+ workers 3 queens-active





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