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Queen or Worker? (Pseudomyrmex gracilis)


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#1 Offline Ants_Texas - Posted January 1 2018 - 5:28 PM

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I've recieved a small twig ant colony from Spamdy. He took this picture of what we thought is the queen. We think the gray spots on the thorax are wing scars, but we aren't sure. Can we get more opinions? 

 

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:dash: Identifying Pseudomyrmex gracilis queens is frustrating.


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#2 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted January 1 2018 - 5:56 PM

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Try to get a top picture. From my 2 years of experience with P. gracilis mexicanus, I'm 90% sure that she's a worker, because P. gracilis queens have a large black "plate" on top of their thorax. She also doesn't have obvious wing scars. P. gracilis queens have very obvious wing scars, and are a tiny bit larger than their workers.


Edited by Connectimyrmex, January 1 2018 - 5:57 PM.

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#3 Offline Ants_Texas - Posted January 1 2018 - 6:01 PM

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Well then I'm almost sure this colony is queenless. However, I never noticed that the queens have the top of their thorax black. That's very helpful.



#4 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted January 1 2018 - 6:03 PM

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Also, P. gracilis queen thoraxes are domed like Camponotus, and worker thoraxes are double humped like Formica.

 

Does your local subspecies have a different thorax coloration? My old queens always had that little black spot (very tiny in workers).


Edited by Connectimyrmex, January 1 2018 - 6:04 PM.

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#5 Offline Ants_Texas - Posted January 1 2018 - 6:28 PM

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Most likely. My local Pseudomyrmex have a half black, half orange thorax. The only way I've been able to tell queens apart is looking very closely at the string of exoskeleton connecting the thorax and gaster. 



#6 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted January 5 2018 - 7:33 PM

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Gaster seems a bit small but most likely no.

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    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#7 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted January 5 2018 - 9:18 PM

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Gaster seems a bit small but most likely no.

I already stated that she's a worker.


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#8 Offline gcsnelling - Posted January 6 2018 - 4:46 AM

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Most likely. My local Pseudomyrmex have a half black, half orange thorax. The only way I've been able to tell queens apart is looking very closely at the string of exoskeleton connecting the thorax and gaster. 

 

That string between the gaster and "thorax" is petiole and post petiole.


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#9 Offline AntHUB - Posted January 6 2018 - 10:01 AM

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Worker, I’m 100% certain from my experience with Pseudomyrmex and my colony

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#10 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted January 6 2018 - 10:47 AM

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Yes, as I stated above, definitely a worker.


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Technomyrmex Difficilis
Pheidole Megacephala
Aholehole fish
Cowrie snail
Sea Fan Worm
100+ sea squirts
Tree seedlings
Ghost Crab
Day Gecko
Small Fat Centipede
Endemic Lacewing larva
Vernal Pool shrimps




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