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[Reacker]

So then don't keep carpenter ants and settle for any of the other species of ants that are certainly in your area. She's letting you keep any other ants but those known to be destructive to a house, perhaps you could be content with that compromise. Things could be a lot worse and this is hardly an imposition.

[dermy]

show them you do not respect their authority and keep them anyways. show them who is boss of the house. rules are meant to be broken.

That's the exact attitude I had/have. Eventually after getting in trouble for the 6000th time they will stop caring anyway and you can do basically whatever you want haha, taken from my own person experince.

 

Just keep them anyway hide them away somewhere and like others have said if they ask just lie and say they aren't Carpenter Ants but some other ant species.

[Skwiggledork]

Convince them you want a little brother. There was a ton of stuff that I wasn't allowed to do while living with my parents that once my brother decided he wanted to do they were ok with. XD

[dermy]

Convince them you want a little brother. There was a ton of stuff that I wasn't allowed to do while living with my parents that once my brother decided he wanted to do they were ok with. XD

I wouldn't recommend that based on personal experience. Would you rather be able to keep ants but have every colony you ever owned for 7 years straight get murdered? I'd either stick with other species or just keep them without them knowing.

[Mettcollsuss]

Convince them you want a little brother. There was a ton of stuff that I wasn't allowed to do while living with my parents that once my brother decided he wanted to do they were ok with. XD

Well, I already have two younger brothers, ages 6 and 9.

[sgheaton]

I want the time wasted reading all this nonsense back

[Hunter]

you could be freeky cheeky and do camp nova and says its a red carpenter ant

[Connectimyrmex]

 

show them you do not respect their authority and keep them anyways. show them who is boss of the house. rules are meant to be broken.

That's the exact attitude I had/have. Eventually after getting in trouble for the 6000th time they will stop caring anyway and you can do basically whatever you want haha, taken from my own person experince.

 

Just keep them anyway hide them away somewhere and like others have said if they ask just lie and say they aren't Carpenter Ants but some other ant species.

 

If I do that, my ants are going in the trash, along with my computer and (probably?) sketchbook. I got a strict thing going on here.

My parents initially denied me from keeping C. pennsylvanicus, but they let me when I proved that I was responsible enough to get a first worker from C. chromaiodes without them escaping.

[Hunter]

 

 

show them you do not respect their authority and keep them anyways. show them who is boss of the house. rules are meant to be broken.

That's the exact attitude I had/have. Eventually after getting in trouble for the 6000th time they will stop caring anyway and you can do basically whatever you want haha, taken from my own person experince.

 

Just keep them anyway hide them away somewhere and like others have said if they ask just lie and say they aren't Carpenter Ants but some other ant species.

 

If I do that, my ants are going in the trash, along with my computer and (probably?) sketchbook. I got a strict thing going on here.

My parents initially denied me from keeping C. pennsylvanicus, but they let me when I proved that I was responsible enough to get a first worker from C. chromaiodes without them escaping.

 

same

[Connectimyrmex]

 

 

 

show them you do not respect their authority and keep them anyways. show them who is boss of the house. rules are meant to be broken.

That's the exact attitude I had/have. Eventually after getting in trouble for the 6000th time they will stop caring anyway and you can do basically whatever you want haha, taken from my own person experince.

 

Just keep them anyway hide them away somewhere and like others have said if they ask just lie and say they aren't Carpenter Ants but some other ant species.

 

If I do that, my ants are going in the trash, along with my computer and (probably?) sketchbook. I got a strict thing going on here.

My parents initially denied me from keeping C. pennsylvanicus, but they let me when I proved that I was responsible enough to get a first worker from C. chromaiodes without them escaping.

 

same

 

You just recommended giving parents the finger .

Edited by Connectimyrmex, December 4 2017 - 10:18 AM.

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

show them you do not respect their authority and keep them anyways. show them who is boss of the house. rules are meant to be broken.

That's the exact attitude I had/have. Eventually after getting in trouble for the 6000th time they will stop caring anyway and you can do basically whatever you want haha, taken from my own person experince.

 

Just keep them anyway hide them away somewhere and like others have said if they ask just lie and say they aren't Carpenter Ants but some other ant species.

 

If I do that, my ants are going in the trash, along with my computer and (probably?) sketchbook. I got a strict thing going on here.

My parents initially denied me from keeping C. pennsylvanicus, but they let me when I proved that I was responsible enough to get a first worker from C. chromaiodes without them escaping.

 

same

 

You just recommended giving parents the finger .

 

they don't care if i swear or do that, but if i try to be the boss, o [censored] hold on

[Connectimyrmex]

Oh ho ho ho, my parents would kill me if I swear at them.

[dermy]

Oh well you kids are lucky, back in my day I didn't have anything they could take away. They already took away internet privileges when I was 15 so it was like what are they gonna do take away my sleeping privileges?

[Connectimyrmex]

Oh well you kids are lucky, back in my day I didn't have anything they could take away. They already took away internet privileges when I was 15 so it was like what are they gonna do take away my sleeping privileges?

My internet privileges are already monitored, and I am not allowed to have any social media (except for our beloved Formiculture, of course ).

Sorry for making a tangent on this thread

[Mettcollsuss]

 

Oh well you kids are lucky, back in my day I didn't have anything they could take away. They already took away internet privileges when I was 15 so it was like what are they gonna do take away my sleeping privileges?

My internet privileges are already monitored, and I am not allowed to have any social media (except for our beloved Formiculture, of course ).

Sorry for making a tangent on this thread

 

That's fine. I don't mind. I do that myself sometimes (by which I mean all the time).

[Reacker]

Oh well you kids are lucky, back in my day I didn't have anything they could take away. They already took away internet privileges when I was 15 so it was like what are they gonna do take away my sleeping privileges?

 

Back in your day? You mean just a couple of years ago.....

[Connectimyrmex]

 

Oh well you kids are lucky, back in my day I didn't have anything they could take away. They already took away internet privileges when I was 15 so it was like what are they gonna do take away my sleeping privileges?

 
Back in your day? You mean just a couple of years ago.....

 

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[Antapoloosa]

I have been planning to catch a Camponotus pennsylvanicus queen when they fly in the spring. I've been planning their setup and whatnot. I thought my mom knew, but apparently she didn't. So when I started talking about my future plans for them, she told me that I wasn't allowed to keep them. She doesn't have a problem with me keeping other ants, but she's worried that they will escape and nest in our house. She's kind of paranoid because our back deck does have a Carpenter Ant problem. I do already have a small C. nearcticus colony, but she only let's me keep them because they only nest in cavities that already exist and don't grow very large colonies. Can someone come up with ideas to help me convince her to let me keep Carpenter Ants? Thanks!

I've had Camponotus decipiens escape before and they simply died. I don't think they would take interest in nesting in your house. You could also keep their outworld as an air tight container to prove that they can't get out to her.

These are two whole different species of Camponotus, Camponotus decipiens aren't known for nesting in houses, while Camponotus pennsylvanicus are widely known as an equivalent to termites.

Actually there are over 1000 distinct species of camponotus. Also camponotus pennsylvanicus can't chew through dry wood, and they do not consume wood like termites do, they simple burrow into wet or rotten wood to make a nest. Also they do not reproduce nearly as fast as termites. Therefore, camponotus pennsylvanicus is not nearly as destructive as termite species.

[Mettcollsuss]

 

 

 

I have been planning to catch a Camponotus pennsylvanicus queen when they fly in the spring. I've been planning their setup and whatnot. I thought my mom knew, but apparently she didn't. So when I started talking about my future plans for them, she told me that I wasn't allowed to keep them. She doesn't have a problem with me keeping other ants, but she's worried that they will escape and nest in our house. She's kind of paranoid because our back deck does have a Carpenter Ant problem. I do already have a small C. nearcticus colony, but she only let's me keep them because they only nest in cavities that already exist and don't grow very large colonies. Can someone come up with ideas to help me convince her to let me keep Carpenter Ants? Thanks!

I've had Camponotus decipiens escape before and they simply died. I don't think they would take interest in nesting in your house. You could also keep their outworld as an air tight container to prove that they can't get out to her.

These are two whole different species of Camponotus, Camponotus decipiens aren't known for nesting in houses, while Camponotus pennsylvanicus are widely known as an equivalent to termites.

Actually there are over 1000 distinct species of camponotus. Also camponotus pennsylvanicus can't chew through dry wood, and they do not consume wood like termites do, they simple burrow into wet or rotten wood to make a nest. Also they do not reproduce nearly as fast as termites. Therefore, camponotus pennsylvanicus is not nearly as destructive as termite species.

 

That's what I tried to tell my parents. They still won't listen.

[Serafine]

Pretty much all Camponotus majors can chew through dry wood, unless it's really really hard wood (like Teak). Most of them just don't do it, that doesn't mean they can't. Camponotus majors can also chew through Ytong, gypsum, plaster and sandstone. The difference to Messor ants is that Messor WILL do it, Camponotus ants MAY do it if they're in a jerky mood.

 

Also you don't need Camponotus pennsylvanicus. There's lots of Camponontus species with less ridiculous colony sizes, better be thankful that your parents aren't aware most of them can nest in dry wood as well.

 

 

Also they do not reproduce nearly as fast as termites.

Most termites actually have a really really really slow initial growth. The issue with termites is that you don't see them until they have grown secretly for years and when you discover their presence they already are a monstrous colony with thousands of reproductives.

 

And don't underestimate the Camponotus ants with large colony sizes - their initial growth might be slow but they can REALLY explode in year 3-5.

The amount of brood a large Camponotus colony can raise is mindboggling.

Edited by Serafine, December 12 2017 - 4:54 AM.