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[T.C.]

Hello, I'm located in wisconsin. I found a queen today that very much resembles Prenolepis imparis. I was curious if there is any documentation of late summer, early fall flights?

[VoidElecent]

Hello, I'm located in wisconsin. I found a queen today that very much resembles Prenolepis imparis. I was curious if there is any documentation of late summer, early fall flights?

 

ID thread?

 

I know there are small Lasius niger populations in the United States, although it is unlikely you found one.

Edited by VoidElecent, September 21 2017 - 5:47 PM.

[T.C.]

No ID, thread yet. I'll get to that later.

But I am curious, what does L. niger have to do with this?

[MrILoveTheAnts]

Brachymyrmex dipilis queens have the exact same color pattern but differ in being only ~4mm long.

 

Prenolepis imparis

 

Brachymyrmex dipilis

 

Prenolepis imparis

 

There's a slight chance you're referring to a Lasius queen of some kind. L. flavus perhaps?

[T.C.]

I'm pretty familiar with all the Lasius species in my area, including L. Flavus. At this point this queen still has her wings. I actually got her in a pond where she had crash landed. And because of that, her wings are stuck to her gaster. Because of it, I can only see the upper sides. Also, I know your not generally supposed to go off of color, but don't Brachymyrmex dipilis generally have more light or clear wings. Mine has much darker wings.

Guess all I can do is get photos.

Edit: Take note, I'm not saying it is P. Imparis and it likely isn't. I'm also not saying it isn't what's been suggested.

Edited by T.C., September 21 2017 - 6:47 PM.

[ultraex2]

I'm thinking that it's L. Neoniger - I still have a few colonies of P. Imparis from earlier this year and it would be really easy to mistake L. Neoniger as them.  The big difference is that P. Imparis are bright orange when they first fly, then they become a more dull orange/brown color after awhile.

 

Here are some pictures for comparison:

 

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/antfarm/imageproxy.php?url=http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a225/SYNDICATE_/D40X/imparisqueen02copy.jpg

 

[VoidElecent]

No ID, thread yet. I'll get to that later.

But I am curious, what does L. niger have to do with this?

 

I'm pretty familiar with all the Lasius species in my area, including L. Flavus. At this point this queen still has her wings. I actually got her in a pond where she had crash landed. And because of that, her wings are stuck to her gaster. Because of it, I can only see the upper sides. Also, I know your not generally supposed to go off of color, but don't Brachymyrmex dipilis generally have more light or clear wings. Mine has much darker wings.

Guess all I can do is get photos.

Edit: Take note, I'm not saying it is P. Imparis and it likely isn't. I'm also not saying it isn't what's been suggested.

 

Some myrmecologists have referred to P. imparis queens as closely resembling those of Lasius niger; but you're right, it's unlikely.

 

An easy way to eliminate B. depilis would be to look at its size. Brachymyrmex are some of the smallest ants in the continent; with queens measuring 4-5 millimeters at most.

[T.C.]

I'm thinking that it's L. Neoniger - I still have a few colonies of P. Imparis from earlier this year and it would be really easy to mistake L. Neoniger as them.  The big difference is that P. Imparis are bright orange when they first fly, then they become a more dull orange/brown color after awhile.
 
Here are some pictures for comparison:

I got L. Neoniger and and L. Alienus colonies. It's not that.

[MegaMyrmex]

Pictures would really help, but there is a chance that it was P. Imparis.

[Connectimyrmex]

Maybe one Prenolepis alate hung around in the nest for two whole seasons.

[VoidElecent]

Your queen could also very well be a lighter variation of Formica pallidefulva. 

 

[Spamdy]

Your queen could also very well be a lighter variation of Formica pallidefulva. 

 

I don't believe their workers look like ultraex's

[VoidElecent]

I don't believe their workers look like ultraex's

 

I'm not sure what you're referring to— I thought T.C.'s queen may be Formica, in the plaiidefulva group.