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#1 Offline AntsCalifornia - Posted September 12 2017 - 7:18 PM

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Can someone ID this queen. Caught in Rancho Cucamonga, about a month or two ago. New workers vibrate gasters very often, if this helps.



#2 Offline JasonD - Posted September 12 2017 - 8:54 PM

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Solenopsis xyloni right? (My first post in ant id so wait for a confirmation) 



#3 Offline Zeiss - Posted September 12 2017 - 9:13 PM

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AntsCalifornia, you have to follow ID post formatting.  Please do this next time.



#4 Offline StopSpazzing - Posted September 12 2017 - 9:21 PM

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sorry bro, but I'm too lazy to ID this ant right now.


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#5 Offline FeedTheAnts - Posted September 13 2017 - 6:45 AM

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I don't know, it looks more like Pheidole to me.


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#6 Offline ultraex2 - Posted September 13 2017 - 7:27 AM

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Don't Solenopsis lift their gasters in the air and shake them specifically?  Pretty sure this is Solenopsis - you could always try a sting test to make sure lol.



#7 Offline VoidElecent - Posted September 13 2017 - 7:54 AM

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Solenopsis xyloni right? (My first post in ant id so wait for a confirmation) 

 

Don't Solenopsis lift their gasters in the air and shake them specifically?  Pretty sure this is Solenopsis - you could always try a sting test to make sure lol.

 

I Second Solenopsis, either S. invicta or S. xyloni. Information regarding the habitat of the ant's capture and its measurements would help.

 

No need to post on an ID thread if you don't plan on identifying it or providing any useful info.



#8 Offline AntsCalifornia - Posted September 13 2017 - 3:03 PM

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I want to identify it so I can sell it. I know the dates would be useful and I know the format, but right now I don't remember when I caught any of my queens. I will ask for more IDs later. In the future, I will post an ant ID as soon as I get the queen and put it in the right format. I live in the riverside area really close to the mountains, like a 10min drive to the mountains. I live in a very populated city, and I never see much more than argentine ants. These queens are all caught in my backyard with a blacklight. They were caught about 1 and a half months ago. The size is about half an inch. I would guess S.invicta. I was trying to show the lines in her gaster when light is shown on it, but in the first pictures, she was conveniently in a space where no light could get to and stayed there for a half hour.



#9 Offline AntsCalifornia - Posted September 13 2017 - 3:21 PM

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Don't Solenopsis lift their gasters in the air and shake them specifically?  Pretty sure this is Solenopsis - you could always try a sting test to make sure lol.

I actually probably will do a sting test, but I need to wait until there is enough workers to spare. This colony is just barely starting off.



#10 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 13 2017 - 3:23 PM

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What is the sting test? All myrmicine females have stings.


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#11 Offline StopSpazzing - Posted September 13 2017 - 4:33 PM

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Uh, hopefully this isn't S. invicta cause you could be violating law in your county. Also you can't sell them in Cali


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#12 Offline AntsCalifornia - Posted September 13 2017 - 9:17 PM

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Could I keep them without selling. I was really hoping, if they are S. invicta, to run tests on their unique ability to link up and form rafts and balls and stuff. Maybe flood the nest. These species interest me which is why my picture is them making a living raft. Also, I think I've heard only S. invicta could link up to form things, or can other ants do that too, because if so, I want one of those species.



#13 Offline AntsCalifornia - Posted September 13 2017 - 9:47 PM

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Nevermind, after further looking into it, it seems it is the S. xyloni that have the stripes int he gaster, and after examination, I'm pretty sure it's the xyloni!!! Don't have to kill my very first ant queen!



#14 Offline ultraex2 - Posted September 14 2017 - 9:08 AM

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What is the sting test? All myrmicine females have stings.

 

If it is Solenopsis, I'm pretty sure that the "solenopsin" posion that Solenopsis has will form a pustule while stings from other Myrmicine ants will not form the white pustule.


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#15 Offline AntsCalifornia - Posted September 25 2017 - 7:34 PM

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1. Rancho Cucamonga

2. About a month ago

3. Suburb

4. Very small (smallest I've seen)

5. Black with little white lines on gaster. This is after laying eggs. Before laying eggs, it's completely black on gaster.

6. Very tiny, seen in backyard if looking very closely at ground. Makes nest around where argentine ants do.

7. Most of the queens I've got are this type, over half.

8. Never seen nest, probably under a rock.

9. Ranging from June to September around 9-10pm

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