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#1 Offline SheepForgeBoi - Posted August 28 2017 - 12:12 PM

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HI! First time posting here so sorry if I get something wrong and sorry for my English!

 

I am from southern England and have recently started keeping ants. I collected Lasius niger, Lasius flavus (and 2 possible other species which need identifying) during their nuptial flights a few months ago. I have a few basic questions that might be answered elsewhere but I wanted to make sure.

 

  1. what's the best way to get a queen with eggs or queens with eggs and workers to move into another testtube?
  2. Is a garage that apart of my house a acceptable place to hibernate the queens? Also what happens to the workers during hibernation?
  3. I am currently feeding the ants in the testtubes do I need to create a outworld or will this do fine?
  4. How long can ants survive without sugar food and how long can they survive without proteins?
  5. What would happen if I connected multiple queened testutbes to the same outworld and added plenty of food?
  6. How well would ants deal with travelling? Like by car and by train (about 2.5 hours)?

 

 

Thanks :) 

 
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#2 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 12:33 PM

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Hello,

Welcome to the forum.

 

For your first question, the best way to do this in my opinion is to take another testube and put a cloth on it so it's dark. Take the cotton out of the other test tube so they are connected. Shine a bright light on the queen with eggs/workers. After some time they will move out to the other test tube (Note: Make sure to leave a small gap when connecting them so air gets in).

 

Considering that you live in Southern England, I would say the garage is a fine place to hibernate your ants. I go to Devon a lot so I am quite familiar with the capabilities there.

 

You do not need to create an outworld yet. As the colony is still small if you have workers, you can feed them via the test tube and they will do just fine. What I would recommend when they get to about 20 workers or they start trying to escape when you remove the cotton when feeding them is to buy a disposable plastic carton at the grocery store and put a barrier around the top part.Then just place the test tube inside and remove the cotton. And Wa La, you have an outworld as well as a formicarium.

 

Ants can survive different periods of time depending on the species. For Lasius, they can go about 5 days without food. What I recommend is to take another test tube and fill it with sugar water and put a carton on it which supplies the ants with a regular source of sugar. They should be able to survive a good week or more like this. However, once every week or as long as they accept protein you should make it available for them.

 

I would not recommend adding multiple queens to connect to the same outworld as they could end up raiding each other's nests.

 

They should be fine while traveling once in a while. But make sure not to do it regularly. Maybe once every 6 months. But I would not recommend it.

 

I hope this was at the least partially helpful. If you have any additional questions feel free to message me/pm me. I would be happy to answer any additional questions as soon as possible. Have fun. Good luck! Best Regards!

 

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Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#3 Offline lucas3431 - Posted August 28 2017 - 12:43 PM

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HI! First time posting here so sorry if I get something wrong and sorry for my English!

 

I am from southern England and have recently started keeping ants. I collected Lasius niger, Lasius flavus (and 2 possible other species which need identifying) during their nuptial flights a few months ago. I have a few basic questions that might be answered elsewhere but I wanted to make sure.

 

  1. what's the best way to get a queen with eggs or queens with eggs and workers to move into another test tube?

 

 

I wouldn't really disturb a queen with just eggs that has no workers. I'm not an expert but I doubt the queen will move her eggs to a different test tube without workers. Best to leave her be for now :).

 

Welcome to the Colony, I'm across the waters in Ireland. May I also add that if you do wish to hibernate your ants in the Shed/garage I would place the ants in a styrofoam container.



#4 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 12:55 PM

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HI! First time posting here so sorry if I get something wrong and sorry for my English!

 

I am from southern England and have recently started keeping ants. I collected Lasius niger, Lasius flavus (and 2 possible other species which need identifying) during their nuptial flights a few months ago. I have a few basic questions that might be answered elsewhere but I wanted to make sure.

 

  1. what's the best way to get a queen with eggs or queens with eggs and workers to move into another test tube?

 

 

I wouldn't really disturb a queen with just eggs that has no workers. I'm not an expert but I doubt the queen will move her eggs to a different test tube without workers. Best to leave her be for now :).

 

Welcome to the Colony, I'm across the waters in Ireland. May I also add that if you do wish to hibernate your ants in the Shed/garage I would place the ants in a styrofoam container.

 

If there is mold than they will move without workers. They actually will move if you force them via light and heat.:D


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Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#5 Offline lucas3431 - Posted August 28 2017 - 1:12 PM

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HI! First time posting here so sorry if I get something wrong and sorry for my English!

 

I am from southern England and have recently started keeping ants. I collected Lasius niger, Lasius flavus (and 2 possible other species which need identifying) during their nuptial flights a few months ago. I have a few basic questions that might be answered elsewhere but I wanted to make sure.

 

  1. what's the best way to get a queen with eggs or queens with eggs and workers to move into another test tube?

 

 

I wouldn't really disturb a queen with just eggs that has no workers. I'm not an expert but I doubt the queen will move her eggs to a different test tube without workers. Best to leave her be for now :).

 

Welcome to the Colony, I'm across the waters in Ireland. May I also add that if you do wish to hibernate your ants in the Shed/garage I would place the ants in a styrofoam container.

 

If there is mold than they will move without workers. They actually will move if you force them via light and heat. :D

 

 

 

Well now if I had of known that I would've moved my queen from that horrible plastic tube I have her in, oh well we learn new with each day. Thanks AntsMaryland. 

 

Edit: But wait..would this not make her stressed and possibly she might eat her eggs?


Edited by lucas3431, August 28 2017 - 1:20 PM.


#6 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 1:33 PM

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No problem! :)


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Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#7 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 1:35 PM

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No, she wouldn't. Queens get stressed if they are repeatedly having light changed and etc. If they move to the other side they will most likely not eat their eggs as the fluctuating conditions of receptive enough to force them to do that. Of course, if does depend on the species you're keeping.


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Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus





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