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Catching Insects to Feed Ants

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#1 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted July 19 2017 - 11:31 AM

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The garden in my house has no pesticides or insecticides nor does the neighbourhood around me. Would it than be ok for me to feed an ant colony bugs that I find in my garden? Also, what would you recommend as a substantial feeder insect besides crickets and roaches, I currently have a successful mealworm farm but what other feeder insects are recommended? I would appreciate any HELPFUL information on this subject. Thanks. Best Regards to All!


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#2 Offline dermy - Posted July 19 2017 - 1:16 PM

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It isn't recommended to feed ant colonies anything from outside, even if you know there isn't pesticides near the area. Some bugs could have flown in with it on them or potentially bring in other unwanted critters [mites, or other things]. If you need to feed them outside stuff, at the very least freeze what you find before hand to at least kill any other critters that could be lurking on them. 



#3 Offline Reacker - Posted July 19 2017 - 4:17 PM

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I'm not aware of any experiments that anyone has done in the ant keeping community to determine if you really do need to freeze any captured wild insects lest you introduce some harmful organism into your captive colonies. I'm also skeptical about the likelihood of live wild insects you've captured carrying a potentially harmful pesticide load into your colonies. 

 

The current best wisdom seems to be to freeze any wild insects with the stated purpose of killing not just the insects but any parasites that they might be carrying with them that would otherwise infest your colonies. Regarding pesticide if you keep captured insects in a container with easy access to moisture and they still seem to be doing fine then reason would suggest that they're safe to feed. In my experience insects exposed to pesticide are usually either dead or quite obviously in the process of dying when you find them so I'm not sure that it's all that necessary to be concerned about this. 

 

I found fruit flies to be very well received among all my ants; queens in tubes in the founding stage seemed to be especially receptive to frozen fruit flies once they thawed out. You can purchase Drosophila hydei cultures from large chain pet stores fairly cheaply and although those cultures typically only last a couple weeks it is trivially easy to culture your own using cheap substrate such as rehydrated potato flakes in clean mason jars. Similarly you can acquire a culture of Drosophila melanogaster which are the so called "flightless" fruit flies.  They were easier to handle in my opinion because I did not have to worry about escapees flying off to infest your house (they can hop a considerable distance though). To acquire these you will likely have to order them online or perhaps get into contact with a museum or zoo that cultures them and beg for a few to start a culture of your own. 


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#4 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted July 20 2017 - 1:41 AM

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Thanks Reacker, that was very helpful! Best Regards!


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#5 Offline Ants Galore - Posted July 20 2017 - 4:49 AM

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Fairly cheap…? No they are very expensive for a jar of fruit flies here in Houston.

#6 Offline Reacker - Posted July 20 2017 - 3:33 PM

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how expensive is expensive? It's been a few years since I bought a culture from a petstore but I recall them being easily under 20 dollars. 20 dollars for the initial population of flies that you can turn into an infinite supply of flies requiring very cheap ingredients and only a couple hours of maintenance every month (or less if you have lots of freezer space for culture material or even full jars so that you do not have to prepare fresh cultures every few weeks). 

 

If 20 dollars or less is too expensive then I suggest that you reorganize your life priorities from keeping ants and flies to finding more lucrative employment. 



#7 Offline Serafine - Posted July 21 2017 - 12:47 AM

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I don't know about the US but here in Germany a cup of fruit flies is about 2.99€ or so. Plus I'm feeding my ants spiders and grasshoppers from the woods and the gardens (I just freeze them) and never had any issue with that. Best food I can recommend though are bee pupae (find and and ask a local beekeeper, when they cut their brood they usually just throw it away, so there's a high chance you can have it when you get there and collect it by yourself).

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#8 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted July 21 2017 - 6:26 AM

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Thanks that was very helpful


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus






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