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Posted June 13 2017 - 5:17 AM
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Yesterday I caught 3 Camponotus pennsylvanicus queens that I think are probably infertile. However,I heard a mention of a way to handpair Campontus in chat awhile back. If anyone can tel me what I should do, please speak up!
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Posted June 13 2017 - 7:06 AM
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Infertile (inability to reproduce) =/= unfertilized
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Posted June 13 2017 - 7:29 AM
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Isn't inability to reproduce sterile?
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Posted June 13 2017 - 7:39 AM
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Isn't inability to reproduce sterile?
Yes, which is roughly synonymous with 'infertile'.
Unfertilized, on the other hand, means that whether or not she can produce offspring, she has not mated. This would most easily be characterized by her producing offspring which develop into males.
Claims of infertility are rampant on the forums, but I've never actually seen anybody investigate their queen's failure to raise workers. The word shouldn't be used interchangeably with "I don't have any idea why my queen failed".
Edited by Batspiderfish, June 13 2017 - 7:55 AM.
If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.
Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.
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Posted June 13 2017 - 10:23 AM
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Isn't inability to reproduce sterile?
Yes, which is roughly synonymous with 'infertile'.
Unfertilized, on the other hand, means that whether or not she can produce offspring, she has not mated. This would most easily be characterized by her producing offspring which develop into males.
Claims of infertility are rampant on the forums, but I've never actually seen anybody investigate their queen's failure to raise workers. The word shouldn't be used interchangeably with "I don't have any idea why my queen failed".
So a queen's infertility refers to her inability to care for young workers and brood?
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Posted June 13 2017 - 10:58 AM
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Isn't inability to reproduce sterile?
Yes, which is roughly synonymous with 'infertile'.
Unfertilized, on the other hand, means that whether or not she can produce offspring, she has not mated. This would most easily be characterized by her producing offspring which develop into males.
Claims of infertility are rampant on the forums, but I've never actually seen anybody investigate their queen's failure to raise workers. The word shouldn't be used interchangeably with "I don't have any idea why my queen failed".
So a queen's infertility refers to her inability to care for young workers and brood?
I didn't intend to go on for this long about it on a thread which is about something else entirely, but infertility means that something about the queen's body or the DNA from any/all parents of an egg is damaged or not developed. Zero hobbyists have been able to provide evidence that any behavior of their pet queen is attributed to infertility, despite many such claims.
With no analysis whatsoever, there is nothing to say about a queen which is doing unwell, despite all apparent needs being met, except "I do not know."
And to dispel confusion about which word means what:
sterile == infertile
unmated == unfertilized
infertile =/= unfertilized
If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.
Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.
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Posted June 13 2017 - 11:14 AM
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Isn't inability to reproduce sterile?
Yes, which is roughly synonymous with 'infertile'.
Unfertilized, on the other hand, means that whether or not she can produce offspring, she has not mated. This would most easily be characterized by her producing offspring which develop into males.
Claims of infertility are rampant on the forums, but I've never actually seen anybody investigate their queen's failure to raise workers. The word shouldn't be used interchangeably with "I don't have any idea why my queen failed".
So a queen's infertility refers to her inability to care for young workers and brood?
I didn't intend to go on for this long about it on a thread which is about something else entirely, but infertility means that something about the queen's body or the DNA from any/all parents of an egg is damaged or not developed. Zero hobbyists have been able to provide evidence that any behavior of their pet queen is attributed to infertility, despite many such claims.
With no analysis whatsoever, there is nothing to say about a queen which is doing unwell, despite all apparent needs being met, except "I do not know."
And to dispel confusion about which word means what:
sterile == infertile
unmated == unfertilized
infertile =/= unfertilized
Thank you BSF, this clears up a lot! I never even knew there was a difference between infertile and unfertilized!
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