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#1 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted April 29 2017 - 2:54 PM

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Note this is not my queen, someone wanted to get his identified so I'll set it up.

Location found - New Zealand lower north island under Palmerston North
Length - 10 mm
Color - brownish reddish color
She is with another queen of the same sp and they aren't fighting they are fine together








Edited by DylanTheAntKeeper, April 29 2017 - 3:05 PM.

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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#2 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted April 29 2017 - 2:59 PM

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#3 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted April 29 2017 - 3:02 PM

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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#4 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted April 29 2017 - 3:07 PM

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Maybe this is an Ochotellus glaber  queen?



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#5 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted April 30 2017 - 1:21 PM

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Looks like Aphaenogaster.



#6 Offline Aaron567 - Posted April 30 2017 - 1:31 PM

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It looks like Huberia striata. I can't find anything else that it would be. 


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#7 Offline VoidElecent - Posted April 30 2017 - 1:41 PM

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It looks like Huberia striata. I can't find anything else that it would be. 

 

I honestly don't even know where to start, with this one. Huberia striata looks the most similar. I would say Monomorium if it wasn't a whole centimetre long, but it is, so I'm sticking with Huberia.



#8 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted April 30 2017 - 3:10 PM

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Looks like Solenopsis fugax but I am quite aware that they do not live in New Zealand. I'd recommend you do some research (you don't have very many species). 

(also a Solenopsis species was found there but given no name (see below) might be that. https://www.antweb.o...shot=p&number=1

https://www.antweb.o...ame=New Zealand

Specimen: CASENT0173889 Solenopsis nz01

Start with this list and try to find pictures of their queens:

  • Austroponera castanea
  • Austroponera castaneicolor
  • Colobopsis newzealandica
  • Discothyrea antarctica
  • Dolichoderus goudiei
  • Fulakora papuanua
  • Fulakora saundersi
  • Heteroponera brounii
  • Huberia brounii
  • Huberia striata
  • Iridomyrmex splendens
  • Leptomyrmex erythrocephalus
  • Monomorium antarcticum
  • Monomorium antipodum
  • Monomorium smithii
  • Nylanderia glabrior
  • Nylanderia tasmaniensis
  • Prolasius advenus
  • Rhytidoponera impressa

Edited by Bracchymyrmex, April 30 2017 - 3:11 PM.


#9 Offline Aaron567 - Posted April 30 2017 - 3:23 PM

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Looks like Solenopsis fugax but I am quite aware that they do not live in New Zealand. I'd recommend you do some research (you don't have very many species). 

(also a Solenopsis species was found there but given no name (see below) might be that. https://www.antweb.o...shot=p&number=1

https://www.antweb.o...ame=New Zealand

Specimen: CASENT0173889 Solenopsis nz01

Start with this list and try to find pictures of their queens:

  • Austroponera castanea
  • Austroponera castaneicolor
  • Colobopsis newzealandica
  • Discothyrea antarctica
  • Dolichoderus goudiei
  • Fulakora papuanua
  • Fulakora saundersi
  • Heteroponera brounii
  • Huberia brounii
  • Huberia striata
  • Iridomyrmex splendens
  • Leptomyrmex erythrocephalus
  • Monomorium antarcticum
  • Monomorium antipodum
  • Monomorium smithii
  • Nylanderia glabrior
  • Nylanderia tasmaniensis
  • Prolasius advenus
  • Rhytidoponera impressa

 

That list should be shortened to only Myrmecine species because the unknown queen is in Myrmecinae.

 

Also, I did the same thing which is how I concluded that it is likely to be Huberia striata. 


Edited by Aaron567, April 30 2017 - 3:23 PM.


#10 Offline Salmon - Posted April 30 2017 - 3:33 PM

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Aren't the Monomorium antarcticum found in NZ much larger than typical Monomorium though?

#11 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted April 30 2017 - 3:58 PM

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Aren't the Monomorium antarcticum found in NZ much larger than typical Monomorium though?

 

I thought so too.



#12 Offline Aaron567 - Posted April 30 2017 - 4:09 PM

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Monomorium antarcticum still aren't 10mm though. Also the coloration of them is very different from this queen. 



#13 Offline VoidElecent - Posted April 30 2017 - 4:27 PM

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Aren't the Monomorium antarcticum found in NZ much larger than typical Monomorium though?

 

I thought so too.

 

 

Notomyrmex (now known as Monomorium antarcticum) workers are known to be slightly larger than their neotropical cousins, but their queens are still 3 or 4 millimeters smaller than this one, and have very distinctly bicolored stripes along their bodies. This queen does also looks very much like a Solenopsis fugax queen, but once again, seems to be significantly larger.

 

Mine and Aaron567's initial guesses still seem to be pretty viable options. This Huberia striata specimen on antweb seems to be very similar to the one described, however some closer images should still be taken to establish a conclusive evidence.



#14 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted May 1 2017 - 12:14 PM

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Oh yes, I didn't notice Aphaenogaster is not found in NZ. 

Huberia seems right. http://naturewatch.o...vations/1116200


Edited by Jonathan21700, May 1 2017 - 12:16 PM.





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