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Started By Vendayn , Mar 10 2017 1:17 PM

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#1 Offline Vendayn - Posted March 10 2017 - 1:17 PM

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#2 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 10 2017 - 2:50 PM

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I can't think of anything other than P. californicus, P. subnitidus, or mayyybe P. rugosus as possibilities (not sure what part of Orange County you're talking about). Without pictures, I don't think anyone can really help.


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#3 Offline Vendayn - Posted March 10 2017 - 3:02 PM

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#4 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 10 2017 - 5:22 PM

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In Irvine about the only thing is P. californicus. Get a good lateral view and we have a better chance of an Id.


#5 Offline Vendayn - Posted March 11 2017 - 10:35 PM

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#6 Online soulsynapse - Posted March 11 2017 - 11:12 PM

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Pogonomyrmex californicus is used as a staple in studies on polygyne ants


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#7 Offline Vendayn - Posted March 14 2017 - 5:28 PM

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#8 Offline MrPurpleB - Posted March 14 2017 - 7:19 PM

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Not sure if your species is Pogonomyrmex californicus or not, but all I can tell you is that my first colony has two queens, no workers yet. I bought these species and the vendor told me that the queens may eventually kill one each other off. 


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#9 Offline Socalfireants - Posted March 15 2017 - 6:07 AM

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I don't know about you Vendayn, but all the pogonomyrmex I find are usually identifiable and have very large healthy workers. Are you sure you're not mistaking the species?I can't think of many places in Irvine that a Pogonomyrmex would actually live that only has 6 inches of soil. 


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#11 Offline Vendayn - Posted March 16 2017 - 3:15 PM

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#12 Offline Canadian anter - Posted March 16 2017 - 3:25 PM

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Looks like P Maricopa to me

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#13 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 16 2017 - 3:35 PM

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Not P. maricopa in any way, shape or form. The apparent small epinotal spines alone let that species out.


#14 Offline Vendayn - Posted March 17 2017 - 5:53 PM

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#15 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 17 2017 - 6:10 PM

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I would say not P. salinus. Can you get a better shot of the epinotal spines?


#16 Offline Canadian anter - Posted March 17 2017 - 7:01 PM

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What about subdentatus or occidentalis?


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#17 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 18 2017 - 3:10 AM

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Not P. occidentalis for sure. Barring better images I am going to conclude this is a slightly aberrant P. californicus colony.


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