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Set up for looking at founding queens? Would this work?


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#21 Offline Shareallicu - Posted March 13 2017 - 6:56 PM

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Ants not seeing red is a myth. My Camponotus can see red perfectly fine, they just get less stressed from it than from pure daylight.

Actually most (if not all) ants can see red but they do not react very strong to it, probably because they think they're still covered by vegetation (light under vegetation cover has a redshift but it's not visible for us).

I agree!  My Formica reacts to red light just like any other light.



#22 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 13 2017 - 7:29 PM

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I wouldn't overthink it at this stage. Did you plan on using some sort of dirt or substrate in those containers? If you do, you will have to bake the dirt to kill off an mites or bacteria. I know those C. sansabeanus are ground dwelling so they will dig, but that C. quercicola are tree dwelling and will not dig a founding chamber.

At this stage of the rearing process, it's just too much work. Using the tried and true standard test tube setup will work best.

The most important thing at this point is to keep everything sterile and clean. I re-use my test tubes and clean them by boiling them in water and then putting them in the oven at 400 deg for 10 min and then letting them air cool. Do not pour cold water on them while it is hot or the glass will crack.

Here is what I do with most species. I take sound dampening foam from Amazon and cut it in half. Not only do they cushion the test tubes when you move them around, but they fit the test tubes perfectly. You can then stack them.

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Wow that looks like a better fit than the foam egg crate that I use.


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#23 Offline soulsynapse - Posted March 13 2017 - 7:47 PM

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#24 Offline Kevin - Posted March 13 2017 - 7:48 PM

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I wouldn't overthink it at this stage. Did you plan on using some sort of dirt or substrate in those containers? If you do, you will have to bake the dirt to kill off an mites or bacteria. I know those C. sansabeanus are ground dwelling so they will dig, but that C. quercicola are tree dwelling and will not dig a founding chamber.

At this stage of the rearing process, it's just too much work. Using the tried and true standard test tube setup will work best.

The most important thing at this point is to keep everything sterile and clean. I re-use my test tubes and clean them by boiling them in water and then putting them in the oven at 400 deg for 10 min and then letting them air cool. Do not pour cold water on them while it is hot or the glass will crack.

Here is what I do with most species. I take sound dampening foam from Amazon and cut it in half. Not only do they cushion the test tubes when you move them around, but they fit the test tubes perfectly. You can then stack them.

doblD8y.jpg


uM5tBdX.jpg

YvdDeWX.jpg

UBIjn5I.jpg

p2w3UKA.jpg


Wow that looks like a better fit than the foam egg crate that I use.

 

I agree, the lighter grey and triangle pattern looks a bit better than the regular corrugated foam.


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#25 Offline JasonD - Posted March 13 2017 - 7:53 PM

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I wouldn't overthink it at this stage. Did you plan on using some sort of dirt or substrate in those containers? If you do, you will have to bake the dirt to kill off an mites or bacteria. I know those C. sansabeanus are ground dwelling so they will dig, but that C. quercicola are tree dwelling and will not dig a founding chamber. 

 

At this stage of the rearing process, it's just too much work. Using the tried and true standard test tube setup will work best. 

 

The most important thing at this point is to keep everything sterile and clean. I re-use my test tubes and clean them by boiling them in water and then putting them in the oven at 400 deg for 10 min and then letting them air cool. Do not pour cold water on them while it is hot or the glass will crack.

 

Here is what I do with most species. I take sound dampening foam from Amazon and cut it in half. Not only do they cushion the test tubes when you move them around, but they fit the test tubes perfectly. You can then stack them.

 

Does the Styrofoam help keep the colonies warm, by trapping heat?  

 

 

It does, especially when there is a heating cable beneath the foam which also helps to spread the warmth. But preserving heat is not the main purpose of the foam. 

 

 

Heads up, the foam does not keep the colonies warm by trapping heat. The foam will thermally insulate the test tubes from the surrounding environment, but without any heat source inside the foam there won't be any excess heat to trap. This is assuming ants don't generate appreciable heat, which I think is right but I'm not a biologist. So don't rely solely on foam to keep your ants warm. It won't work.

That said the foam does look like a great set up, so thanks Nurbs!



#26 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 13 2017 - 8:14 PM

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The foam does a good job dampening any higher frequency vibrations.



#27 Offline Works4TheGood - Posted March 14 2017 - 5:53 PM

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Ants not seeing red is a myth. My Camponotus can see red perfectly fine, they just get less stressed from it than from pure daylight.

Actually most (if not all) ants can see red but they do not react very strong to it, probably because they think they're still covered by vegetation (light under vegetation cover has a redshift but it's not visible for us).

I agree!  My Formica reacts to red light just like any other light.

 

It's a bit inconsistent across species.  Check out this article if you'd like more info: http://blog.wildabou...t-color-vision/


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