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#1 Offline Georgeev - Posted January 28 2017 - 8:12 AM

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Is anyone of you keeping or have kept in the past a non-native ant spicie to your area
.What is you expirience so far?

#2 Offline Canadian anter - Posted January 28 2017 - 8:16 AM

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I've kept Aphaenogaster occidentalis

They were fine.


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#3 Offline Georgeev - Posted January 28 2017 - 8:34 AM

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Cool

#4 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted January 28 2017 - 8:36 AM

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once I caught an infertile solenopsis invicta queen but she died. I also caught a lot of argentine ant brood and queens but they are the most boring ants ever so I let them go


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#5 Offline Georgeev - Posted January 28 2017 - 8:41 AM

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once I caught an infertile solenopsis invicta queen but she died. I also caught a lot of argentine ant brood and queens but they are the most boring ants ever so I let them go


Did you caught them on a vacation or something?that for replying

Edited by dspdrew, January 28 2017 - 10:10 AM.
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#6 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted January 28 2017 - 9:02 AM

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no I caught them on the sidewalk next to my house


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#7 Offline Georgeev - Posted January 28 2017 - 9:04 AM

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How is that a non native speci

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#8 Offline Kevin - Posted January 28 2017 - 9:42 AM

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Please read the rules.

 

Transportation of ants is illegal in the US, therefore discussion of it, or any illegal activity, is against the rules, and many members here will advise against these topics.

 

EDIT: While technically it's not breaking the rules yet, I still advise halting further conversation on this topic, as we have concluded from the past it doesn't end well.

 

8. Buying, selling, or trading queen ants is not illegal in most places, including the US, however, what is illegal a lot of times, is shipping or transporting them. Here in the US it is illegal to ship or transport queen ants across state borders. The scientific community also strongly discourages this because of the harm that can be done to the local ecosystem. Because of this, making arrangements to buy, sell, or trade nonnative queen ants is not allowed anywhere on Formiculture.com.

 

3. No posting any messages that are obscene, indecent, profane, vulgar, sexually oriented, or violate any US laws.


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#9 Offline Serafine - Posted January 28 2017 - 9:45 AM

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I have a small Camponotus barbaricus colony (native in southern Europe/north Africa) which isn't exactly native in my area (central Europe) although conditions should be fairly similar (and yes, it's legal here).

They can be kept at room temperature, like it rather dry, do not necessarily need to hibernate (but can do so) and generally are a fairly undemanding species. So far they're doing well.


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#10 Offline benjiwuf - Posted January 28 2017 - 9:50 AM

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Please read the rules.

 

Transportation of ants is illegal in the US, therefore discussion of it, or any illegal activity, is against the rules, and many members here will advise against these topics.

 

EDIT: While technically it's not breaking the rules yet, I still advise halting further conversation on this topic, as we have concluded from the past it doesn't end well.

 

8. Buying, selling, or trading queen ants is not illegal in most places, including the US, however, what is illegal a lot of times, is shipping or transporting them. Here in the US it is illegal to ship or transport queen ants across state borders. The scientific community also strongly discourages this because of the harm that can be done to the local ecosystem. Because of this, making arrangements to buy, sell, or trade nonnative queen ants is not allowed anywhere on Formiculture.com.

 

3. No posting any messages that are obscene, indecent, profane, vulgar, sexually oriented, or violate any US laws.

 

This does not add anything to the discussion. there is no talk about sale, buying, or trade of any queens. your spamming of the rules however i would consider breaking rule number 4. please report threads you feel in breach of the rules and move past the thread. The moderators will take actions as necessary.


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#11 Offline Georgeev - Posted January 28 2017 - 9:56 AM

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I'm really sorry if i did something against the rules I asked just for education purposes only

#12 Offline dspdrew - Posted January 28 2017 - 9:58 AM

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How is that a non native speci

 

There are many non-native ant species living in the wild.

 

 

Im really sorry if i did something against the rules I asked just for education purposes only

 

You are not breaking any rules.


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#13 Offline Georgeev - Posted January 28 2017 - 10:09 AM

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How is that a non native speci

 

There are many non-native ant species living in the wild.

 

 

I'm really sorry if i did something against the rules I asked just for education purposes only

 

You are not breaking any rules.

 

Thanks for your response and for letting me know :)


I have a small Camponotus barbaricus colony (native in southern Europe/north Africa) which isn't exactly native in my area (central Europe) although conditions should be fairly similar (and yes, it's legal here).

They can be kept at room temperature, like it rather dry, do not necessarily need to hibernate (but can do so) and generally are a fairly undemanding species. So far they're doing well.

cool! thanks for your reply :)


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#14 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted January 28 2017 - 10:16 AM

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How is that a non native speci

OH I thought you meant invasive species


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#15 Offline antgenius123 - Posted January 28 2017 - 10:36 AM

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How is that a non native speci

Many times ants are imported overseas into other countries from their native locations.


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#16 Offline Leo - Posted January 28 2017 - 4:46 PM

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Yep, i once found a small colony of (what i think was) Aphaenogaster sp in my grapes along with the queen, i dumped into a gel antfarm and they died

the grapes were from california


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#17 Offline Shareallicu - Posted January 28 2017 - 6:53 PM

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Please read the rules.

 

Transportation of ants is illegal in the US, therefore discussion of it, or any illegal activity, is against the rules, and many members here will advise against these topics.

 

EDIT: While technically it's not breaking the rules yet, I still advise halting further conversation on this topic, as we have concluded from the past it doesn't end well.

 

8. Buying, selling, or trading queen ants is not illegal in most places, including the US, however, what is illegal a lot of times, is shipping or transporting them. Here in the US it is illegal to ship or transport queen ants across state borders. The scientific community also strongly discourages this because of the harm that can be done to the local ecosystem. Because of this, making arrangements to buy, sell, or trade nonnative queen ants is not allowed anywhere on Formiculture.com.

 

3. No posting any messages that are obscene, indecent, profane, vulgar, sexually oriented, or violate any US laws.

You can ship them across borders if you have a permit.  You have to know exactly where/what you are buying and where you are taking it (to which state).  I was going to get a permit to do that, but wasn't sure what I wanted at the time.  I may in the future though :)



#18 Offline gcsnelling - Posted January 29 2017 - 4:37 AM

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Please read the rules.

 

Transportation of ants is illegal in the US, therefore discussion of it, or any illegal activity, is against the rules, and many members here will advise against these topics.

 

EDIT: While technically it's not breaking the rules yet, I still advise halting further conversation on this topic, as we have concluded from the past it doesn't end well.

 

8. Buying, selling, or trading queen ants is not illegal in most places, including the US, however, what is illegal a lot of times, is shipping or transporting them. Here in the US it is illegal to ship or transport queen ants across state borders. The scientific community also strongly discourages this because of the harm that can be done to the local ecosystem. Because of this, making arrangements to buy, sell, or trade nonnative queen ants is not allowed anywhere on Formiculture.com.

 

3. No posting any messages that are obscene, indecent, profane, vulgar, sexually oriented, or violate any US laws.

You can ship them across borders if you have a permit.  You have to know exactly where/what you are buying and where you are taking it (to which state).  I was going to get a permit to do that, but wasn't sure what I wanted at the time.  I may in the future though :)

 

As has been said time and time again. A general hobbyist is not going to be issued a permit to transport complete living colonies across state lines. I do not understand how hard it is to understand this, it aint rocket science folks, and for what it is worth the various agriculture agencies are aware of and do monitor this place and other arthropod discussion sites from time to time.


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#19 Offline Serafine - Posted January 29 2017 - 5:25 AM

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and for what it is worth the various agriculture agencies are aware of and do monitor this place and other arthropod discussion sites from time to time.

They can't be very effective considering they haven't caught Alabama Anter yet...

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#20 Offline Canadian anter - Posted January 29 2017 - 7:59 AM

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and for what it is worth the various agriculture agencies are aware of and do monitor this place and other arthropod discussion sites from time to time.

They can't be very effective considering they haven't caught Alabama Anter yet...

 

or Mdrogun and Kevin for that matter


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