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[FSTP]

and I don't need the forum. You people are hypocritical and this is forum is a joke. Thank you and Have a great.

 

I don't see how anyone here is hypocritical perhaps you misunderstand the meaning of the word. No one here is telling you you can't fuse different species and then going and fusing different species....

[Alabama Anter]

and I don't need the forum. You people are hypocritical and this is forum is a joke. Thank you and Have a great.

Oh jeez...

[antgenius123]

Seriously

[Connectimyrmex]

I looked that guy up, and I couldn't find anything about fusing species. Either that or I don't search well enough.

[Alabama Anter]

I looked that guy up, and I couldn't find anything about fusing species. Either that or I don't search well enough.

Omg Hawaii! All you have to do is type letters in! Gosh... xD

[Connectimyrmex]

 

I looked that guy up, and I couldn't find anything about fusing species. Either that or I don't search well enough.

Omg Hawaii! All you have to do is type letters in! Gosh... xD

 

When I say search I meant I searched his profile page, not searching as in internet searching. The context I was using was like "I searched for the gorilla but couldn't find it".

[Serafine]

Kthxbye, don't let the door hit you on the way out...

Edited by Serafine, January 8 2017 - 11:58 AM.

[LC3]

No one here is being hypocritical. I can't even remotely think of any hypocrisy in this thread. You think everyone here is claiming you can't fuse species and secretly fusing them in their basements? Anyways no one is believing you not because we carry some secret vendetta for people with the name Ricardo or whatever other reason. No one believes you because for one it's a general consensus among the scientific community (Yes those people who got a degree in entomology and are actual qualified Myrmecologists) that according to the biology and natural history of ants fusing random species, genres maybe subfamilies and getting them to function as one unified colony is near impossible. Second you have yet to provide any valid sources, research or proof that this is possible other then a random guy on Facebook. (Which you also provided very little information of)

 

If you really believe we and the myrmecologists of the world are wrong and you want to prove it, instead of running away and calling everyone a "hypocrite" why don't you provide us with some actual peer-reviewed studies on the topic? Or even better yet why don't you just show us pictures of your accomplishments? As they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

What's the use of a forum if no one is willing to share new findings and experience, correct? If you truly do believe you know the secret to fusing species please enlighten us with said knowledge. 

[Batspiderfish]

I would have said "bless you for attempting an experiment with something that even approaches a real sample size", but then the details surrounding acquisition of ants you presume not to be native are disappointing. We do not condone black market trade of ants.

[Canadian anter]

Ricardo the species you're trying to fuse aren't even in the same subfamily. Some of us have tried before and failed. Also, you're putting 100 USd at risk. Like terry said, ant conversation between 2 different colonies 

"you smell different, I kill you" 

This is worse, this is "you smell, look, sound, feel different. I kill you"

However in case you ARE going to try, Are you using callows or mature workers?

[Kevin]

Ricardo the species you're trying to fuse aren't even in the same subfamily. Some of us have tried before and failed. Also, you're putting 100 USd at risk. Like terry said, ant conversation between 2 different colonies 

"you smell different, I kill you" 

This is worse, this is "you smell, look, sound, feel different. I kill you"

However in case you ARE going to try, Are you using callows or mature workers?

I'm not sure it matters if they are callows or not, the queen or and mature workers in the colony would kill the callows.

[Alabama Anter]

I feel like $100.00 USD and many lives will be wasted because the ignorance of one man.

[Serafine]

Well there was someone recently who has semi-successfully founded Lasius niger with multiple queens. The problem is when the last two queens started fighting the wokrers would have killed both if he hadn't saved one which had left the colony to die off with zero queens. So this can be sort-of-successfull you just have to remember to put all but one queen out once there are only 3-4 of them left.

 

And yes, there are some ants that can live together quite fine in the same outworld are as long as they have separate formicaria but you need very specific species for this and even then it's always a matter of luck. They may still start to attack or raid each other at some point.

[Loops117]

You guys are so mean. Should have just left him alone the moment we realized he wasn't taking our advice. I really want him to stick around the forum so we can see his amazing success. I mean, the guy you're talking to and getting "Hand to Hand" instructions from is almost guaranteeing your success, so why even call it an experiment?

 

And lastly, thank you for calling out all these hobbyist and amateur entomologist. Their years of experience and research mean absolutely nothing since your buddy is completing the nearly impossible. Has your buddy published a book or perhaps even a blog on his findings? Considering that kind of work would be worth gold in the hands of anyone that would go through the trouble, i would imagine your buddy would have documented it at least once. That is to say it actually happened and he's not making a quick $100 sale on someone who believes you can fuse 100s of queens from 3 entirely different species together.

Edited by Loops117, January 9 2017 - 7:48 AM.

[dspdrew]

It wasn't different species he was going to "fuse" together. He was talking about two entirely different subfamilies of ants.

[drtrmiller]

I've discovered a near perfect method of fusing any two or more animals or other organisms together. Using this method, it is even possible to make a half man, half blueberry bush, 100% delicious hybrid--all without a trip to the Willy Wonka Factory.

You will need the following ingredients:
- 2 or more different organisms to be fused together
- Super glue

Just follow the instructions on your package of adhesive, and your fusion is complete.

Please post photos of your fusions in this thread.

I take no responsibility for whatever deranged fusions you guys create.

[CallMeCraven]

I've discovered a near perfect method of fusing any two or more animals or other organisms together. Using this method, it is even possible to make a half man, half blueberry bush, 100% delicious hybrid--all without a trip to the Willy Wonka Factory.

You will need the following ingredients:
- 2 or more different organisms to be fused together
- Super glue

Just follow the instructions on your package of adhesive, and your fusion is complete.

Please post photos of your fusions in this thread.

I take no responsibility for whatever deranged fusions you guys create.

Maybe try a process like this: http://www.wikihow.com/Graft-Plants

[kellakk]

You all poke fun at this idea, but I've actually seen the photos from "Robert Fuentalba Ojeda" and he seems to have success mixing different species. His most recent experiment seems to be putting a Lasiophanes sp. with a Camponotus sp. I still doubt that he's able to keep colonies fused for extended periods of time, though.

Edited by kellakk, January 9 2017 - 10:50 AM.

[ctantkeeper]

You all poke fun at this idea, but I've actually seen the photos from "Robert Fuentalba Ojeda" and he seems to have success mixing different species. His most recent experiment seems to be putting a Lasiophanes sp. with a Camponotus sp. I still doubt that he's able to keep colonies fused for extended periods of time, though.

Yeah, I've seen some of his work with "fused" colonies before as well. I wonder how he managed to accomplish that.

[antgenius123]

 Wow  

Edited by antgenius123, January 16 2017 - 11:17 AM.