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Which ant would win in a battle?

Started By Connectimyrmex , Dec 26 2016 2:18 PM
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Poll: Which Ant would Win? (15 member(s) have cast votes)

Which Ant would Win

  1. Yellow Crazy Ants (6 workers) (7 votes [46.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 46.67%

  2. Trap jaw Ants (2 workers) (2 votes [13.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.33%

  3. Dorylus Ants (1 queen, 2 majors, 1 minor) (4 votes [26.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.67%

  4. Pachycondyla Ants (1 queen) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Bullet Ant (1 worker) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Atta Leafcutter Ants (1 soldier) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Bull ant (2 callow workers) (2 votes [13.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.33%

  8. Monomorium Ants (4 workers) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted December 26 2016 - 2:18 PM

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Which ant do you think would win in a battle? Vote in the polls and add comments about why they would win! :)


Edited by Hawaiiant, January 4 2017 - 9:37 PM.

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#2 Offline Californian Anter - Posted December 26 2016 - 3:07 PM

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5 yellow crazy ants; strength in numbers and acid spray.


Edited by Californian Anter, December 26 2016 - 3:07 PM.

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#3 Offline Canadian anter - Posted December 26 2016 - 3:13 PM

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Strength in numbers in the Most important in ant warfare
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#4 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted December 26 2016 - 3:28 PM

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I'm not sure if this is General AntKeeping... More on Off Topic... I chose Odantomachus workers. Killer bite and can jump out of the way. Also they pack a nasty sting.

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#5 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted December 26 2016 - 3:37 PM

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Strength in numbers in the Most important in ant warfare

Not true. Size matters a ton as well. (Not saying that numbers doesn't matter) Like Diacamma and Carebara diversus majors can just reck havoc and chew/sting through everything. Another thing that counts in war is weaponry. YCA (Yellow Crazy Ants) have formic acid and tiny jaws and they seem like the peoples' choice right now, I can see why but in weaponry Odantomachus clearly have the advantage. With jaws that close in milliseconds, the ability to move out the way by jumping, their overall size difference, and finally their ability to inject toxins instead of spraying them.

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#6 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted December 26 2016 - 5:28 PM

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I'm not sure if this is General AntKeeping... More on Off Topic... I chose Odantomachus workers. Killer bite and can jump out of the way. Also they pack a nasty sting.

It's in General Anting, not General antKeeping :P

Also, I think that off topic is for other animals. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm still new to this forum. :)


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#7 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted December 26 2016 - 5:32 PM

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I edited the poll, seeing that this is pretty popular so far. :D


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100+ sea squirts
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#8 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted December 26 2016 - 6:54 PM

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I edited the poll, seeing that this is pretty popular so far. :D

Really?! See now I have to think life choices again...

YJK

#9 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted December 26 2016 - 9:12 PM

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I would think that the Atta majors have the best chance. Most of the contenders in this opinion poll are not specialized at fighting other ants (except Neivamyrmex, but a small, lone ant is not very imposing). Atta and Dorylus majors are the only ants on this list powerful enough to draw blood from a human, but I think that Dorylus would be behaviorally limited without the rest of their colony. Atta majors are large and powerful enough to kill or maim any one of these ants with a single bite.


Edited by Batspiderfish, December 26 2016 - 10:03 PM.

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#10 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted December 27 2016 - 6:46 AM

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I would think that the Atta majors have the best chance. Most of the contenders in this opinion poll are not specialized at fighting other ants (except Neivamyrmex, but a small, lone ant is not very imposing). Atta and Dorylus majors are the only ants on this list powerful enough to draw blood from a human, but I think that Dorylus would be behaviorally limited without the rest of their colony. Atta majors are large and powerful enough to kill or maim any one of these ants with a single bite.

See but the thing is Atta are like tanks, clumsy huge but deadly. I would go with the Dorylus because although they are restricted to the rest of the colony, so are the Atta. And When the Atta tries to bite the Dorylus, it can avoid the huge clumsy Atta. While the Atta only have 2 slow clumsy but powerful majors, Dorylus have 1 Major and 2 workers. I would imagine the major would distract while the miners would tear and sting them to death.

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#11 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted December 27 2016 - 7:37 AM

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I would think that the Atta majors have the best chance. Most of the contenders in this opinion poll are not specialized at fighting other ants (except Neivamyrmex, but a small, lone ant is not very imposing). Atta and Dorylus majors are the only ants on this list powerful enough to draw blood from a human, but I think that Dorylus would be behaviorally limited without the rest of their colony. Atta majors are large and powerful enough to kill or maim any one of these ants with a single bite.

See but the thing is Atta are like tanks, clumsy huge but deadly. I would go with the Dorylus because although they are restricted to the rest of the colony, so are the Atta. And When the Atta tries to bite the Dorylus, it can avoid the huge clumsy Atta. While the Atta only have 2 slow clumsy but powerful majors, Dorylus have 1 Major and 2 workers. I would imagine the major would distract while the miners would tear and sting them to death.

 

 

Human analogies don't really work on ants. Atta are much more independent than Dorylus, which never leave the proximity of their colony. The speed of any ant depends on its metabolic rates, not its size. Any ant that grabs onto an Atta major is liable to be pulled towards its mandibles and bitten. Of course, none of us know for sure what the outcome of this would be, because these two ants have never been in contact with one another.


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Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#12 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted December 27 2016 - 3:07 PM

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This is going pretty interesting so far! :)


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#13 Offline antgenius123 - Posted January 4 2017 - 2:22 AM

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Yellow crazy ants. Their numbers and their killing techniques would win
 
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#14 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted January 4 2017 - 7:56 AM

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Yellow crazy ants. Their numbers and their killing techniques would win

I doubt that they'll able to kill 2 Odantomachus sp workers or the Driver Ants. Also what do u mean by killing techniques? If u mean the way they stretch their enemies legs, that wouldn't be effective with that many workers. If any of the ants I listed above get a hold of them they are basically dead meat. Odantomachus sp can easily decapitate a crazy ant with one bite. Driver Ants could just rip it apart, Attas would do the same.

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#15 Offline 1000101011 - Posted January 4 2017 - 8:38 AM

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someone pls test this.


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someone pls test this.

I'll be able to do 2 Odantomachus brunneus workers with 5 YCAs

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#17 Offline 1000101011 - Posted January 4 2017 - 9:21 AM

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someone pls test this.

I'll be able to do 2 Odantomachus brunneus workers with 5 YCAs

 

this is a good start should this an all v all or a tournament. 


#18 Offline antgenius123 - Posted January 4 2017 - 9:47 AM

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5 yellow crazy ants; strength in numbers and acid spray.

I agree


 
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#19 Offline antgenius123 - Posted January 4 2017 - 9:48 AM

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Someone who has

 

 

 

someone pls test this.

I'll be able to do 2 Odantomachus brunneus workers with 5 YCAs

 

this is a good start should this an all v all or a tournament. 

 

Someone should record it


 
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#20 Offline Serafine - Posted January 4 2017 - 10:40 AM

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I doubt that 7 Yellow crazy ants can immobilize 2 Atta soldiers. That's 3.5 Yellows for one Atta soldier which can just cut them in half.

They'd need like at least four times as many workers for that.

 

And please don't start ant battles to pleasure your curiosity. Chicken and dog fights are forbidden for a reason.


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