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#1 Offline dermy - Posted September 8 2014 - 10:23 AM

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Here is one of my "Tetramorium" or "Myrmica" queens, I found her a few days ago with about 14 others running on the sidewalks, they are about 3mm or less.

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#2 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted September 8 2014 - 10:57 AM

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Looks like Tetramorium.

#3 Offline dermy - Posted September 8 2014 - 11:00 AM

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That's what I was thinking, as well as MILTA.



#4 Offline Mercutia - Posted September 8 2014 - 12:28 PM

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What was your location again Dermy?



#5 Offline dermy - Posted September 8 2014 - 5:13 PM

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Darn I forgot about that.

 

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#6 Offline Mercutia - Posted September 9 2014 - 5:46 AM

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Looks too small to be any Tetramorium I can think of. Maybe Stenamma sp. or possibly even Temnothorax sp. though it will be very very hard to ID with that picture. All I can see is a general shape and two petioles.



#7 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted September 9 2014 - 4:55 PM

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Yeah, a second look at the picture, the head does look a bit too elongated for Tetramorium.


Are these the polygynous ones?



#8 Offline WeatherAnt - Posted September 9 2014 - 9:19 PM

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No one has suggested Myrmica sp. yet? They've been flying like mad here in the northern Plains (US) lately.



#9 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted September 9 2014 - 9:20 PM

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3mm. Myrmica?



#10 Offline WeatherAnt - Posted September 9 2014 - 9:34 PM

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3mm. Myrmica?

 

That's a detail which I missed. Assuming the measurement is accurate (not a guess), then Stenamma is a good possibility.



#11 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted September 9 2014 - 10:06 PM

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:D



#12 Offline Mercutia - Posted September 10 2014 - 4:33 AM

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Any way you can get a clearer picture Dermy?



#13 Offline Crystals - Posted September 10 2014 - 6:52 AM

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Dermy, look at some pictures of Leptothorax.  At 3mm, they fit the bill and fly pretty much whenever Myrmica fly. 

This is not a Myrmica, too elongated and too small at 3mm.

 

To the best of my knowledge, Tetramorium and Stenamma are not found in Saskatchewan.

 

Saskatchewan has similar species as Alberta - http://www.antweb.or...nts&images=true


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#14 Offline dermy - Posted September 10 2014 - 11:56 AM

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Hey guys sorry about the lack of updates, been busy.

 

Yes they are the polygyny ones [or however that is spelt :P]

 

Myrmica doesn't work, too small and she/the workers in my area don't posses stingers.

 

I will try to get you better pics when I'm not so busy.

 

Crystals, I will take a look at Leptothorax, hopefully it looks similar.



#15 Offline WeatherAnt - Posted September 10 2014 - 1:52 PM

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Dermy, look at some pictures of Leptothorax.  At 3mm, they fit the bill and fly pretty much whenever Myrmica fly. 

This is not a Myrmica, too elongated and too small at 3mm.

 

To the best of my knowledge, Tetramorium and Stenamma are not found in Saskatchewan.

 

Saskatchewan has similar species as Alberta - http://www.antweb.or...nts&images=true

 

Leptothorax seems like a good bet. I've never seen one in person before which is why they didn't come to mind, but after looking around online a bit I agree with Crystals.



#16 Offline dermy - Posted September 13 2014 - 11:59 AM

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I think my 3mm was a understatement I looked at a ruler [I never bothered to measure her :(] and I think it's safe to say she is a lot bigger then 3mm.



#17 Offline dspdrew - Posted September 13 2014 - 12:04 PM

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It's always important to actually use a ruler and measure. Estimations can be way off sometimes.



#18 Offline dermy - Posted September 14 2014 - 11:31 AM

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Yeah in this case that was way off need to post a pic with a ruler next to it.






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