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Colony ID please

Started By NZAntKeeper , Nov 25 2016 2:32 PM

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#1 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted November 25 2016 - 2:32 PM

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Location - New Zealand north island under a pot
When found - I believe it was last year in September
Length - hard to measure but I'd say 6-7 millimetres
Anything else - this species had their nuptial flight about 1 to 2 weeks ago I brood boosted her when I caught her
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#2 Offline Jash - Posted November 25 2016 - 2:43 PM

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Looks like Technomyrmex jocosus. Caught 3 of these myself last week :).

 

I'm so wrong.


Edited by Jash, November 30 2016 - 3:00 AM.

#3 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted November 25 2016 - 2:43 PM

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Argentine ants maybe?


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#4 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted November 25 2016 - 7:30 PM

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The pictures are blurry, but it looks more along the lines of Paratrechina longicornis to me.


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#5 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted November 25 2016 - 8:43 PM

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The pictures are blurry, but it looks more along the lines of Paratrechina longicornis to me.


Really paratrechina longicornis? I will try get better pictures soon.

My Youtube Channel
https://m.youtube.co...R--GtDfJdaJjWpQ

Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis

#6 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted November 25 2016 - 9:16 PM

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My Youtube Channel
https://m.youtube.co...R--GtDfJdaJjWpQ

Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis

#7 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted November 25 2016 - 9:16 PM

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The pictures are blurry, but it looks more along the lines of Paratrechina longicornis to me.

No, I think that these ants have a larger head and thorax. Paratrechina have skinny bodies.


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#8 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted November 25 2016 - 9:17 PM

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That's about the best pics I can get

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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis

#9 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted November 25 2016 - 9:18 PM

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The pictures are blurry, but it looks more along the lines of Paratrechina longicornis to me.

Really paratrechina longicornis? I will try get better pictures soon.
try a macro lens :)


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#10 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted November 25 2016 - 9:19 PM

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Could it be technomyrmex jocosus as suggested above?

The pictures are blurry, but it looks more along the lines of Paratrechina longicornis to me.

Really paratrechina longicornis? I will try get better pictures soon.
try a macro lens :)

Yea I've been trying to look for one but the cheapest is like $120

My Youtube Channel
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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis

#11 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted November 25 2016 - 9:21 PM

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Could it be technomyrmex jocosus as suggested above?

The pictures are blurry, but it looks more along the lines of Paratrechina longicornis to me.

Really paratrechina longicornis? I will try get better pictures soon.
try a macro lens :)
Yea I've been trying to look for one but the cheapest is like $120
what???? You can get one from Antkit for a few bucks. I got mine on eBay for 30. I think that it's Technomyrmex, it has the color, flight time, and body shape as them.

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The pictures are blurry, but it looks more along the lines of Paratrechina longicornis to me.[/quote]Really paratrechina longicornis? I will try get better pictures soon.[/quote] try a macro lens :)
Yea I've been trying to look for one but the cheapest is like $120[/quote] what???? You can get one from Antkit for a few bucks. I got mine on eBay for 30. I think that it's Technomyrmex, it has the color, flight time, and body shape as them.


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#12 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted November 25 2016 - 9:28 PM

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Oh yea I forgot about antkit but is that macro lens good? I've already placed a order for a nest 2 days ago I was gonna wait and see if it's good. Also thanks everyone for identifying it.

My Youtube Channel
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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis

#13 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted November 26 2016 - 6:00 AM

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Seeing them again, the antennae aren't quite long enough for Paratrechina. That would most likely leave Nylanderia (or the possibility of Prolasius advenus, but the antennal scapes on your ants look too long.).


Edited by Batspiderfish, November 26 2016 - 6:03 AM.

If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#14 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted November 26 2016 - 7:47 AM

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Seeing them again, the antennae aren't quite long enough for Paratrechina. That would most likely leave Nylanderia (or the possibility of Prolasius advenus, but the antennal scapes on your ants look too long.).

hmm, I didn't know Nylanderia were in New Zealand.


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#15 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted November 26 2016 - 9:09 AM

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Should I try and get photos of just one ant to show the antennae and other features?

My Youtube Channel
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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis

#16 Offline Jash - Posted November 30 2016 - 2:35 AM

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I definitely was wrong about these being Technomyrmex, their queens are much more worker-like in appearance:

 

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I agree that they're probably Nylanderia.


Edited by Jash, November 30 2016 - 2:35 AM.

#17 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted November 30 2016 - 9:09 AM

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Are there Nylanderia in new zealand?

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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis

#18 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted November 30 2016 - 11:46 AM

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Are there Nylanderia in new zealand?

 

https://www.antweb.o...ame=New Zealand


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#19 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted November 30 2016 - 6:55 PM

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Oh there are thanks for that. The sites information that I was looking at must of been wrong.

My Youtube Channel
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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis

#20 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted December 1 2016 - 7:29 AM

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Oh there are thanks for that. The sites information that I was looking at must of been wrong.

 

If you are using Antmaps' diversity view to see all the species in New Zealand, keep in mind that they only report what we believe to be native species. The species range map, for a given ant, will show the reported native AND nonnative range.

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Oh, but It looks like New Zealand does have native Nylanderia.


Edited by Batspiderfish, December 1 2016 - 7:57 AM.

If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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