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Lynnwood, Washington, USA. September 6, 2016


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#1 Offline Shareallicu - Posted September 6 2016 - 7:54 PM

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1. Location of collection:  Lynnwood area of Washington, USA.

2. Date of collection: September 5, 2016
3. Habitat of collection:  found under a stone in the dirt.  The stone was the type that people make their handprints in.  Possibly plaster but unsure.
4. Length:  7-8 mm.
5. Coloration: shiny black with lighter legs and antennae. 
6. Distinguishing characteristics:  almond shaped eyes, but I couldn’t see any nodes.  But sometimes they are hard for me to see.  I’m also trying to ignore her so she will lay eggs asap.  I counted 11 antennal segments.  She also has some fine hairs on her gaster.
7. Anything else distinctive: jumpy when she sees me.
8. Nest description: A neighbor found her under the plaster rock in dirt.
9 . Post the clearest pictures possible of the top, side, and face of the ant in question, and if possible, their nest and the habitat they were collected in.

 

Thanks A lot!

 



#2 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 6 2016 - 9:58 PM

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Formica argentea, I believe, although the image is underexposed.


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#3 Offline Shareallicu - Posted September 6 2016 - 10:34 PM

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Formica argentea, I believe, although the image is underexposed.

Sorry, thanks for trying.  These photos are from a neighbor who captured it for me.  My phone is just taking blurry, unhelpful pictures worse than these.   Are you sure she is a queen at least?  We weren't sure.  Thanks!  I'm looking to see if I can find some batteries for my digital camera... :)


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#4 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 7 2016 - 6:50 AM

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She  is a queen. You can even see bits of wing on her mesosoma, suggesting that they were removed recently.


Edited by Batspiderfish, September 7 2016 - 6:50 AM.

If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#5 Offline Shareallicu - Posted September 7 2016 - 9:24 AM

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She  is a queen. You can even see bits of wing on her mesosoma, suggesting that they were removed recently.

Awesome!  thanks a lot!  I can't find any information online about Formica Argentea.   Do they like the dark?   Do they need food?  She has water :)  What size will her workers be?  How often should I check on her?  She seems really jumpy when I check on her hehe



#6 Offline benjiwuf - Posted September 7 2016 - 11:10 AM

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Formica species tend to be more light (and shadow) sensitive from my limited experience. She is fully claustral (so she doesn't need food), but a little honey water wouldn't hurt. I can't answer the third question. Typically leave queens be and they do their thing better undisturbed. Formica species ants from my experience tend to be quite sensitive to everything.

#7 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 7 2016 - 11:31 AM

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You can treat her like any other Formica from the fusca group.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#8 Offline Shareallicu - Posted September 7 2016 - 11:48 AM

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Formica species tend to be more light (and shadow) sensitive from my limited experience. She is fully claustral (so she doesn't need food), but a little honey water wouldn't hurt. I can't answer the third question. Typically leave queens be and they do their thing better undisturbed. Formica species ants from my experience tend to be quite sensitive to everything.

Thanks!  I am new at ant keeping so that is very helpful! :)


You can treat her like any other Formica from the fusca group.

I'm sorry, I am new to this :/  I don't know anything about the Formica ants.



#9 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 7 2016 - 1:22 PM

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Formica are fairly easy to care for, but they are sensitive. I think, caught at this time of year, your queen won't start laying until the spring. I was just implying that if you looked at the journals for basically an non-parasitic Formica (i.e. Formica subsericea, Formica pallidefulva, Formica incerta, Formica fusca), you would get a pretty good understanding of how to take care of your queen.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#10 Offline Shareallicu - Posted September 7 2016 - 5:41 PM

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Formica are fairly easy to care for, but they are sensitive. I think, caught at this time of year, your queen won't start laying until the spring. I was just implying that if you looked at the journals for basically an non-parasitic Formica (i.e. Formica subsericea, Formica pallidefulva, Formica incerta, Formica fusca), you would get a pretty good understanding of how to take care of your queen.

Okay, thanks a lot!  :)



#11 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 14 2016 - 5:47 PM

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Hi! I am changing my ID to Formica podzolica. I wasn't paying attention to how short the antennal scapes are.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#12 Offline Shareallicu - Posted September 16 2016 - 4:54 PM

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Hi! I am changing my ID to Formica podzolica. I wasn't paying attention to how short the antennal scapes are.

OKay cool no problem.  I know the pictures aren't the best, so that doesn't help :( 



#13 Offline James C. Trager - Posted September 20 2016 - 3:35 AM

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As I said elsewhere, lighting is the main issue with your photos. As batspiderfish said, F. podzolica is likely, or if she is rather shiny, then some other species (marcida=fusca, or even neogagates). But hard to say with these dark images. 






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