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Testing Formicarium with wild ants before using it


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#1 Offline AntsBrazil - Posted January 17 2017 - 7:02 AM

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Hello guys, I have 3 nests that are ready to use but I don't know if it's ok for the ants. I was thinking about testing them with wild ants, but I would like to know the opinions of you guys, if I should test them, and how to do it in the best way possible. 

I was thinking about taking some workers and some brood and hold them in the nest for some time and see if they don't die, and if the brood develops. 

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#2 Offline BMM - Posted January 17 2017 - 7:22 AM

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I'm still relatively new to ant keeping, but I've successfully done this twice already with workers and it's been helpful. The ants don't seem to mind too much, although there's an obvious risk with putting them into an untested environment.



#3 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted January 17 2017 - 7:38 AM

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I feel like having wild ants test it first is more ideal. If they die then that means it's not suitably for your ants.
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#4 Offline AntsBrazil - Posted January 17 2017 - 7:43 AM

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Yeah, it could also help prevent escapes. 


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#5 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted January 17 2017 - 7:46 AM

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yeh I test all my formicarium with Argentine ants.


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#6 Offline AntsBrazil - Posted January 17 2017 - 8:43 AM

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yeh I test all my formicarium with Argentine ants.

You guys use just ants or brood too? 


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#7 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted January 17 2017 - 8:50 AM

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This sounds like a good way to introduce contaminant organisms to your future colony.


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If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#8 Offline noebl1 - Posted January 17 2017 - 11:39 AM

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This sounds like a good way to introduce contaminant organisms to your future colony.

This was my first thought as well... I wouldn't want to risk it as not sure how well it can be sterilized.  


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#9 Offline AntsBrazil - Posted January 17 2017 - 11:46 AM

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So I can expose my ants to the nest that can maybe kill them, or test it with other ants that maybe are carrying things that maybe will not be good to my ants. I don't know what to do now hahaha.


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#10 Offline Kevin - Posted January 17 2017 - 12:04 PM

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Test it with a worker(s) from the colony you want to move it into. If it dies, oh well, better than the whole colony, and if it survives, it's reunited with the colony anyway.


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#11 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted January 17 2017 - 12:44 PM

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Hmmmm. I agree with Kevin 100%! Try that JPS.


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#12 Offline Leo - Posted January 17 2017 - 4:14 PM

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yup me too



#13 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted January 17 2017 - 4:19 PM

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Test it with a worker(s) from the colony you want to move it into. If it dies, oh well, better than the whole colony, and if it survives, it's reunited with the colony anyway.

Although, a worker can die much more easily if it is by itself. A sample of workers will be more appropriate.

Having said that, unless you have reason to believe that there are toxic materials in the setup, any colony you put in there should be fine. If hydration is a concern, just make sure they have access to a test tube with water. What species are you thinking about putting in there?


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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Black lives still matter.


#14 Offline AntsBrazil - Posted January 18 2017 - 3:38 AM

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Thanks for the replies. I'm thinking about using a similar design to Camponotus, Solenopsis, Crematogaster and Pachycondyla. I used Aquarium silicone and everything but I made a founding nest with the same products and the queen(Camponotus) didn't develop her brood, a queen that I captured in the same week now have 14 workers, and the queen in the nest keeps loosing her brood, so I think that the nest is maybe killing it. Maybe having a test tube always attached would solve the problem.


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Pachycondyla striata

Solenopsis saevissima

 

 

 





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