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[XZero38]

The topic title says it all

I want to keep two of the queens together but i don't know if they would actually get along

[Mdrogun]

From what I understand Pogonomyrmex californicus and Pogonomyrmex rugosus queens can start a colony together but eventually all of the queens except the strongest will be kicked out of the nest shortly after the first workers arrive however, in some rare occasions the queens will work together for longer than that. The only way to find out would be for you to try it as I don't think anyone on here keeps Pogonomyrmex occidentalis. Just be prepared to loose all of the queens involved.

[sgheaton]

Not to hijack this into a different direction but can someone explain what's the difference between the types of Pogonomyrmex? They are all Pogonomyrmex ...Are Californicus from California? That wouldn't make sense calling the Rugosus from Rugo...Maybe they are more "rugged". I guess is there an example of this with more common items?

 

FOOD HYPOTHETICAL

-I've got red, green, and purple kool-aid. It's all koolaid - no matter how you look at it. Except there can be another classification in that the Red is Cherry-kool aid, Green is Lime, and Purple is Grape. 

-They are all Pogonomyrmex. Californicus is just another classification of Pogonomyrmex, just like Rugosus, barbatus, occidentalis, etc.

 

Might be a little bit of a stretch to compare ants to powdered drink mix but I think you understand what I'm getting at.. 

[XZero38]

From what I understand Pogonomyrmex californicus and Pogonomyrmex rugosus queens can start a colony together but eventually all of the queens except the strongest will be kicked out of the nest shortly after the first workers arrive however, in some rare occasions the queens will work together for longer than that. The only way to find out would be for you to try it as I don't think anyone on here keeps Pogonomyrmex occidentalis. Just be prepared to loose all of the queens involved.

I have 14 Pogonomyrmex. Occ. queens and all of them are in their own setups except 2 i decided to experiment and see how they would act and so far they havent killed each other. Its only been a couple hours so i guess only time will tell

[sgheaton]

Now you have to report your scientific findings to the community so that we will claim it to be the golden truth!!

[kellakk]

Not to hijack this into a different direction but can someone explain what's the difference between the types of Pogonomyrmex? They are all Pogonomyrmex ...Are Californicus from California? That wouldn't make sense calling the Rugosus from Rugo...Maybe they are more "rugged". I guess is there an example of this with more common items?

 

FOOD HYPOTHETICAL

-I've got red, green, and purple kool-aid. It's all koolaid - no matter how you look at it. Except there can be another classification in that the Red is Cherry-kool aid, Green is Lime, and Purple is Grape. 

-They are all Pogonomyrmex. Californicus is just another classification of Pogonomyrmex, just like Rugosus, barbatus, occidentalis, etc.

 

Might be a little bit of a stretch to compare ants to powdered drink mix but I think you understand what I'm getting at.. 

 

Pogonomyrmex species are named using binomial nomenclature just like any other species. All the species have morphological differences, occupy different geographic ranges, are genetically distinct, and usually have other small differences.

[XZero38]

The answer to this question so far is no they are not.

out of the 3 pairs i have 2 have killed their tube mate so i have one pair left

[kellakk]

That's unfortunate. They were not likely to work together anyway, at most they would be pleometrotic.

[XZero38]

I'm not to shaken by the loss, it was an experiment anyways since i had 19 queens in the first place.

[sgheaton]

Oh you are devastated and losing sleep over it. Stop trying to act manly.