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#1 Offline AntsTexas - Posted May 3 2016 - 10:40 AM

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i know invicta are.....

 

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Ant Queens found:

 

Solenopsis Invicta,  Solenopsis xyloni,  Brachymyrmex depilis/Sp,  Myrmecocystus Mimicus,  Pogonomyrmex barbatus,

Forelius pruinosus,  Camponotus sayi, Dorymyrmex insanus, crematogaster ashmeadi,

 

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Ant Queens i have going right now:

 

camponotus sayi, solenopsis invicta, Myrmecocystus Mimicus, Forelius pruinosus

Pogonomyrmex barbatus, and some others (no i.d.)

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#2 Offline Vendayn - Posted May 3 2016 - 11:59 AM

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Solenopsis molesta is the Thief ant. I don't know too much about them, but I'm pretty sure no one thinks of them as "fire ants". I never seen them called that anyway.

 

I'm sure there are others.


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#3 Offline Crystals - Posted May 3 2016 - 12:18 PM

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"Fire ants" is a common name, not truely specific.

 

Common names are not reliable - names such as "Black garden ant" in some areas it could be Lasius, Tapinoma, Formica, etc.

 

Solenopsis invicta is usualy dubbed the imported fire ant. 

Solenopsis xyloni is a native, occasionally termed southern fire ant.

Some poeple call Soleneopsis germinata a fire ant.

 

Perhaps we need to clarify your question, are we speaking of common names, or any Solenopsis species with a known painful sting?


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#4 Offline Vendayn - Posted May 3 2016 - 12:29 PM

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"Fire ants" is a common name, not truely specific.

 

Common names are not reliable - names such as "Black garden ant" in some areas it could be Lasius, Tapinoma, Formica, etc.

 

Solenopsis invicta is usualy dubbed the imported fire ant. 

Solenopsis xyloni is a native, occasionally termed southern fire ant.

Some poeple call Soleneopsis germinata a fire ant.

 

Perhaps we need to clarify your question, are we speaking of common names, or any Solenopsis species with a known painful sting?

I had the impression he meant the common names.

 

And quite a few of Solenopsis "common names" do seem to include "Fire ant".

 

I don't find any of their stings painful though. Its mostly annoying because they itch a lot, more than they hurt. But, that doesn't really relate to the thread too much.



#5 Offline AntsTexas - Posted May 3 2016 - 12:50 PM

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Solenopsis molesta is the Thief ant. I don't know too much about them, but I'm pretty sure no one thinks of them as "fire ants". I never seen them called that anyway.

 

I'm sure there are others.

cool, thanks..

 

 

"Fire ants" is a common name, not truely specific.

 

Common names are not reliable - names such as "Black garden ant" in some areas it could be Lasius, Tapinoma, Formica, etc.

 

Solenopsis invicta is usualy dubbed the imported fire ant. 

Solenopsis xyloni is a native, occasionally termed southern fire ant.

Some poeple call Soleneopsis germinata a fire ant.

 

Perhaps we need to clarify your question, are we speaking of common names, or any Solenopsis species with a known painful sting?

any solenopsis, thanks

 

 

"Fire ants" is a common name, not truely specific.

 

Common names are not reliable - names such as "Black garden ant" in some areas it could be Lasius, Tapinoma, Formica, etc.

 

Solenopsis invicta is usualy dubbed the imported fire ant. 

Solenopsis xyloni is a native, occasionally termed southern fire ant.

Some poeple call Soleneopsis germinata a fire ant.

 

Perhaps we need to clarify your question, are we speaking of common names, or any Solenopsis species with a known painful sting?

I had the impression he meant the common names.

 

And quite a few of Solenopsis "common names" do seem to include "Fire ant".

 

I don't find any of their stings painful though. Its mostly annoying because they itch a lot, more than they hurt. But, that doesn't really relate to the thread too much.

 

thanks


Ant Queens found:

 

Solenopsis Invicta,  Solenopsis xyloni,  Brachymyrmex depilis/Sp,  Myrmecocystus Mimicus,  Pogonomyrmex barbatus,

Forelius pruinosus,  Camponotus sayi, Dorymyrmex insanus, crematogaster ashmeadi,

 

----------------------------------------

Ant Queens i have going right now:

 

camponotus sayi, solenopsis invicta, Myrmecocystus Mimicus, Forelius pruinosus

Pogonomyrmex barbatus, and some others (no i.d.)

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#6 Offline LC3 - Posted May 3 2016 - 8:26 PM

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"Fire ants" is a common name, not truely specific.

 

Common names are not reliable - names such as "Black garden ant" in some areas it could be Lasius, Tapinoma, Formica, etc.

 

Solenopsis invicta is usualy dubbed the imported fire ant. 

Solenopsis xyloni is a native, occasionally termed southern fire ant.

Some poeple call Soleneopsis germinata a fire ant.

 

Perhaps we need to clarify your question, are we speaking of common names, or any Solenopsis species with a known painful sting?

 

To add to the list Myrmica rubra is known as the European fire ant and Myrmica specoides has been sometimes called the impressive fire ant. 



#7 Offline Reacker - Posted May 4 2016 - 11:47 AM

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When you're a regular person who doesn't care about ants except to keep them away from you, all red ants large enough not to escape notice are fire ants. In Nevada I learned that Pogonomyrmex, with their large and very noticeable mounds, are all fire ants. 



#8 Offline Crystals - Posted May 4 2016 - 12:39 PM

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Or as my Dad so eloquently put it, "It is a red ant.  What else do you need to know?"  :D


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#9 Offline Teleutotje - Posted May 5 2016 - 3:15 AM

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All species of Solenopsis, subgenus Solenopsis are Fire Ants (more than 20 species, how many ???, there are many sibling and cryptic species....). All other Solenopsis species are Thief Ants.

 

Here in Europe Myrmica aren't known as Fire Ants........


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#10 Offline yen_saw - Posted May 5 2016 - 5:10 AM

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What is the reason they are called 'fire' ants? Is it because of the bright red/orange color or the fire burning sensation of their sting?



#11 Offline AntsTexas - Posted May 5 2016 - 5:31 AM

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What is the reason they are called 'fire' ants? Is it because of the bright red/orange color or the fire burning sensation of their sting?

from what i heard/read it's because of the sting....


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Ant Queens found:

 

Solenopsis Invicta,  Solenopsis xyloni,  Brachymyrmex depilis/Sp,  Myrmecocystus Mimicus,  Pogonomyrmex barbatus,

Forelius pruinosus,  Camponotus sayi, Dorymyrmex insanus, crematogaster ashmeadi,

 

----------------------------------------

Ant Queens i have going right now:

 

camponotus sayi, solenopsis invicta, Myrmecocystus Mimicus, Forelius pruinosus

Pogonomyrmex barbatus, and some others (no i.d.)

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