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Is there any way for an individual to obtain a queen specimen of Eciton army ants?

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#1 Offline AntInSpaceFilms - Posted March 30 2025 - 2:14 AM

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Hello,
I am currently based in South Korea and have been collecting various ant specimens. While this is a personal hobby, it also serves as a source of inspiration for my artistic creations. I am particularly fascinated by the superorganism characteristics of ant colonies, and I find army ants especially compelling as they exemplify these traits in the most direct and remarkable way.
 
At present, I own specimens of E. burchellii and E. hamatum workers, soldiers, and males, collected through both personal fieldwork and purchases. However, acquiring a queen ant presents an entirely different challenge. Collecting a queen typically leads to the collapse of the entire colony, making the act highly destructive and unethical.
 
That said, if there were a way to obtain an already preserved queen specimen—through ethical and legal means—I would be very interested. Unfortunately, no specimen dealers or even platforms like eBay seem to offer them.
 
In the end, is it simply an unattainable specimen?


#2 Offline IdioticMouse26 - Posted March 30 2025 - 4:29 PM

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Hi, I live in South Korea and by no means am I a professional, but I might be able to provide feedback.

 

As far as I know, you could not bring an army ant queen to Korea, as it is not native to the country. Also, keeping army ants is extremely difficult due to their nomadic lifestyle, espically E. burchellii, since their colony tends to grow extremely big(but I feel like you already know this). I highly doubt any countries that the ants aren't native to would give permission to keep them due to the species's highly destructive nature. 

So, yes, I do think they are a unattainable speciemen. I totally know how you feel though. My dream ant colony was Carebara diversa, asian maraudar ants, but I have come to terms with the fact that I probably will never be able to keep them.

 

By the way, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of artistic creations do you make? It's really cool that you use ants as inspiration.



#3 Offline ReignofRage - Posted March 30 2025 - 4:48 PM

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From my understanding, many of the infrequently collected Dorylinae gynes end up in museum collections or in the private collection of the collector because of the rarity. A few long-time entomologists that I have worked with have displayed disdain about the private collection of these gynes on the basis that army/legionary ants do not reproduce quickly, the taking of a queen eliminates the entire colony from the wild, and there is not much benefit to the collection of them if it will not be a public resource -- one of these entomologists equated it to trophy hunting of exotic animals. Your best bet of procuring an Eciton gyne is to post "looking for" posts across numerous forums in hopes that one of the few people who possess one is willing to sell/give you one. Local laws to where the specimen is collected and your own local laws is something you would have to look into.


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