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Dspdrew's Veromessor pergandei Journal [138] (Discontinued 12-14-2021)

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#101 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 2 2015 - 4:22 AM

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I'm not sure. The large colony actually had two queens before they had workers. I never knew exactly why one of the queens died.



#102 Offline antmaniac - Posted April 2 2015 - 4:56 AM

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I see. Sometimes the queen would start the colony together, then the stronger queen will kill off the other queen for food or just abandon the body (happened to meat ants). Depends on the species I suppose, for some timid species, the colony may also accept the queen and kill off the weak one I think.



#103 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 2 2015 - 5:19 AM

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Yeah, there's a few different scenarios that involve multiple queens.



#104 Offline Foogoo - Posted April 2 2015 - 7:54 AM

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Update 3-29-2015
 

All of the new queens are now completely mite-free. Using my extremely fine forceps, I wiped them all off. I also briefly held them under running water from the sink to help knock the mites off.

 

And they let you do that?  :o My cat won't let me do anything close to that while my Dorymyrmex queens seem to be finding any excuse to die, none of which comes close to giving them a shower!


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#105 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 2 2015 - 8:44 AM

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They didn't have much of a choice.


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#106 Offline antmaniac - Posted April 3 2015 - 6:05 PM

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Update 3-29-2015
 

All of the new queens are now completely mite-free. Using my extremely fine forceps, I wiped them all off. I also briefly held them under running water from the sink to help knock the mites off.

 

And they let you do that?  :o My cat won't let me do anything close to that while my Dorymyrmex queens seem to be finding any excuse to die, none of which comes close to giving them a shower!

 

Imagining two massive boulders (I mean fingers) hold on to you...struggling is futile. 



#107 Offline Crystals - Posted April 3 2015 - 6:36 PM

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I like that nest.

 

Now I am even more jealous of that colony.  :D


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#108 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 30 2015 - 10:34 PM

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Update 4-30-2015
 

Chromerust gave me a few more new colonies of these that he just doesn't have the time to take care of.

 

Today I found the queen of one of the colonies in the small ant farm boxes dead and ripped in half. :(



#109 Offline dspdrew - Posted July 27 2015 - 1:09 PM

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Update 7-27-2015
 

My original large colony is doing well as always.

 

My one remaining new colony from this year is doing well too so far. They're still housed in one of my small dirt boxes, and I think I counted about 16 workers. They also have a large amount of brood in all stages of development.



#110 Offline Foogoo - Posted July 27 2015 - 3:27 PM

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Got any new pics? It's always fun seeing large harvester colonies.


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#111 Offline dspdrew - Posted July 27 2015 - 3:46 PM

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No new pictures of my large colony.



#112 Offline dspdrew - Posted August 3 2015 - 6:34 AM

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Update 8-3-2015
 

Well I just found my new colony dragging pieces of the queen around in the out world, so I guess that's it for them. They are left with about 20 workers and lots of brood.



#113 Offline Foogoo - Posted August 3 2015 - 6:57 AM

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Do you have another V. pergandei colony? This could be an interesting experiment to introduce a new queen to an existing colony. I'd especially like to see if having the two together but separated as Crystals had mentioned for a few days would work.


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#114 Offline dspdrew - Posted August 3 2015 - 7:39 AM

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I don't have another small colony or lone queen.



#115 Offline dspdrew - Posted January 20 2016 - 1:10 AM

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Update 1-20-2016
 

The colony is still doing great, along with the prototype formicarium I have them in. They probably haven't grown a whole lot since the last update, but they still seem to be healthy. Lately the queen hasn't been laying hardly any eggs, but it's probably just the time of year. The only thing I've been doing differently, is I have them in total darkness now because I haven't gotten any lighting set up yet here at my new apartment.

 

Here's a strange video of them attracted to the cold white light of an LED flashlight. Who knows, maybe it has something to do with them being kept in constant darkness.

 



#116 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 19 2016 - 11:48 PM

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Update 3-20-2016
 
I just found another three of these queens today in Pinon Hills, CA. I put one in a "dirt box" and the other two in test tubes.
 
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#117 Offline Shaye - Posted March 23 2016 - 12:16 AM

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The queens will be for sale? If so, do you have an estimate price?


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#118 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 23 2016 - 6:14 AM

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Most likely since my main colony has well over 2000 workers now. I'll probably keep one of these new ones, so assuming I have two left, I would sell them for probably at least $50, but it depends on a lot of factors.



#119 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 13 2016 - 6:39 AM

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Update 4-13-2016
 

I did a rough estimated count, and it appears they have about 2200 workers now. in addition to this, the queen is producing like crazy; a quarter of the nest is filled with brood. It also looks like a few workers finally breached the Fluon lip, so I guess it's time to swap it out with a fresh one. It's amazing how long it lasted.



#120 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 22 2016 - 10:31 AM

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Update 4-22-2016
 
This is why I am in a hurry to try to finish this formicarium design. I'm going to have to extend the chambers on this thing very soon; these guys have completely filled it up. I think there are about 2400 workers in the colony now.
 
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The two new queens that I have in test tubes are not doing very well at all, but the one in the "dirt box" is doing great, and should have workers very soon.
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