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ID help on please! Pseudomyrmex apache?

Started By yen_saw , Oct 3 2015 2:06 PM

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#1 Offline yen_saw - Posted October 3 2015 - 2:06 PM

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First look appear to be Pseudomyrmex pallidus, but after seeing the queen to worker size ratio it is different than the normal P pallidus queen I have seen before. The worker ants are slightly larger than P pallidus too. Thanks in advance for ID. 

 

1. Location of collection: Houston, Texas

2. Date of collection: 10/03/2015

3. Habitat of collection: Grassy with standing dead wood stem

4. Length (from head to gaster): ~ 5 mm

5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Orange-Red

6. Distinguishing characteristics: Elongated, wasp-like

7. Anything else distinctive: Very good eye-sight with darting move

8. Nest description: Arboreal. Nesting inside hollow twig

 

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This is Pseudomyrmex pallidus queens and workers for comparison (Shooting in closer range).

 

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#2 Offline dspdrew - Posted October 3 2015 - 2:51 PM

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Such cool ants.


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#3 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted October 3 2015 - 2:52 PM

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So lucky... Looks like P.apache. 


#4 Offline yen_saw - Posted October 3 2015 - 3:21 PM

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Such cool ants.

Thanks. 

 

So lucky... Looks like P.apache. 

Thanks! Based on Antweb this species can be found in CA too. In fact the record shows this species was found only in Austin and San Antonio.


#5 Offline AntsTexas - Posted October 3 2015 - 4:33 PM

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cool looking ants :)


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Ant Queens found:

 

Solenopsis Invicta,  Solenopsis xyloni,  Brachymyrmex depilis/Sp,  Myrmecocystus Mimicus,  Pogonomyrmex barbatus,

Forelius pruinosus,  Camponotus sayi, Dorymyrmex insanus, crematogaster ashmeadi,

 

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Ant Queens i have going right now:

 

camponotus sayi, solenopsis invicta, Myrmecocystus Mimicus, Forelius pruinosus

Pogonomyrmex barbatus, and some others (no i.d.)

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#6 Offline yen_saw - Posted October 3 2015 - 5:08 PM

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cool looking ants :)

Hey Chris thanks! You got more cool ants there at the West side :)


#7 Offline gcsnelling - Posted October 4 2015 - 4:14 AM

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Ps. apache is quite wide spread in California, I have no problem with the ants in question being that species. Compare the eyes by far the best way to tell them apart.


#8 Offline yen_saw - Posted October 4 2015 - 4:49 AM

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Ps. apache is quite wide spread in California, I have no problem with the ants in question being that species. Compare the eyes by far the best way to tell them apart.

May I know how do you compare the eyes, as to P. pallidus, which is pretty similar to my novice eyes.

 

This is the second time I have seen this species, where queen has extended elongated gaster and there's always only one queen in the colony, unlike P pallidus.


Edited by yen_saw, October 4 2015 - 4:52 AM.

#9 Offline gcsnelling - Posted October 4 2015 - 5:45 AM

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Ps. pallidus has much larger eyes compared to head length.

 

Ps. pallidus

 

 

Ps. apache

 

Photos from antwiki.


Edited by gcsnelling, October 4 2015 - 5:47 AM.

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#10 Offline William. T - Posted October 4 2015 - 7:58 AM

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Wow. So lucky. I had no idea how exactly cool looking these were until now.


Species I keep:

 

1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 

#11 Offline yen_saw - Posted October 4 2015 - 12:32 PM

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Ps. pallidus has much larger eyes compared to head

Photos from antwiki.


Thanks gcsnelling! Great photos!
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