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Planting carnivours plants in backyard


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#1 Online IdioticMouse26 - Posted Today, 12:34 AM

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Hello! Is there any carnivourous plants experts/keepers there?

 

I want to buy a venus fly trap(or any easily obtainable carnivourous plants). But I have to leave for Canada in august(I'm in south korea rn). 

My grandparent's place has a stream very close to it, practically in the backyard, and I was wondering if it would be possible to plant carnivourous plants there? The environment is perfect for them. Low-nutrient soil, constant supply of water, and LOTS of bugs. I also searched if there are carnivourous plants in korea and google said yes, so the environment shouldn't be a problem.

 

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Do NOT plant anything that is not native your area. Venus fly traps are native to North Carolina.
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#3 Online IdioticMouse26 - Posted Today, 4:12 AM

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Got it. Thanks for the feedback.

 

Edit: What about native ones? Apparently, Drosera spatulata is native south korea.


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#4 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted Today, 5:59 AM

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Got it. Thanks for the feedback.

 

Edit: What about native ones? Apparently, Drosera spatulata is native south korea.

If they are native I wouldn’t find them harmful, unless they start to outcompete other plants in the area


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#5 Online IdioticMouse26 - Posted Today, 6:16 AM

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The only plants nearby are weeds and mosses. 



#6 Offline ANTdrew - Posted Today, 8:37 AM

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Keep researching. See where the native carnivorous plants are found in Korea and whether your local habitat is a good fit.
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#7 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted Today, 9:28 AM

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Hello! Is there any carnivourous plants experts/keepers there?

 

I want to buy a venus fly trap(or any easily obtainable carnivourous plants). But I have to leave for Canada in august(I'm in south korea rn). 

My grandparent's place has a stream very close to it, practically in the backyard, and I was wondering if it would be possible to plant carnivourous plants there? The environment is perfect for them. Low-nutrient soil, constant supply of water, and LOTS of bugs. I also searched if there are carnivourous plants in korea and google said yes, so the environment shouldn't be a problem.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

I'm looking up VFTs and they seem less likely to spread than, say, Cape sundew (of which, by the way, I once ordered a single specimen but in a few months I had dozens of seedlings popping up all over my other purchases and years later, despite giving lots away and accidentally killing some, I still have a bunch).

I have a somewhat different opinion with VFTs. If you're going to be going back to live there and it's very temporary to keep them watered while you're gone, I don't see why you can't temporarily plant some VFTs and dig them up later so they don't spread, assuming it's not violating local laws. Their flowering season is spring so it's unlikely they will flower and go to seed if you're only gone a month in August. Though just the dirt itself can bring in exotic pests (e.g. invertebrates). If you do see flowers at any point, I'd cut them off as (1) they are fairly plain unlike, say, Pings (2) they drain energy from the plants and (3) you don't want them to spread.

I look around my American neighborhood and there aren't many native plants or trees around here - many from South Africa, or Europe, or Asia. I'd much rather have more native species, so I'm not saying you should risk adding an introduced exotic plant, but kept in containers, VFTs are great for getting people excited about nature so I'm very lenient to them as ambassador species. A temporary stay in the ground so they get plenty of water doesn't seem bad. If they mostly live in a self-watering container you can also take them around to show them off and spark some discussion about fascinating organisms. (Just be aware those self-watering containers are easy to tip over if you're driving around with them to take to school for kids to see.... Don't ask me how I know....)


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#8 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted Today, 5:38 PM

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You would have to factor in humidity, temp, and sunlight. They won't survive long periods over 100F (37.7C), they have the best lives at 60% to 80% humidity. They need on average of 6-10 hours of sunlight, depending on the species. There is not much of a risk for carnivorous plants becoming a problem in the environment. If you where buying from a store, they wouldn't sell any plant to you if they had any chance of harming anything.


Edited by AntsGodzilla, Today, 5:39 PM.

 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

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#9 Offline MyrmecologyMaven - Posted Today, 6:36 PM

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You would have to factor in humidity, temp, and sunlight. They won't survive long periods over 100F (37.7C), they have the best lives at 60% to 80% humidity. They need on average of 6-10 hours of sunlight, depending on the species. There is not much of a risk for carnivorous plants becoming a problem in the environment. If you where buying from a store, they wouldn't sell any plant to you if they had any chance of harming anything.

No, the store almost certainly will sell them to you. Unless you chatted with the seller who happened to be very into environmental conservation they will sell you the plant. Chances are most sellers won't even care if you tell them. They can and will survive in 100f. I have kept flytraps, sundew, bladderworts, cephalotus, sarracenia, and more on my balcony is SoCal. At my prime of keeping I had at least 30 flytraps, 12 sarracenia, 3cephalotus, a bunch of bladderworts, tons of sundews, and more thriving. Summer highs can be 110f for weeks at a time with humidity in the 20% range most of the summer. Even some tropical sundews can easily survive outdoors if given light shade from some sarracenia pitchers. I have absolutely no idea who gave you this idea. The only thought I can think of is you are severely under watering your plants to the point they die from the dehydration or lack of acclimation to the outdoor conditions. 



#10 Online IdioticMouse26 - Posted Today, 7:24 PM

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Korea is really humid during summer and the stream really only dries out during winter because it freezes(as far as I know that's ok because the plants hibernate). and there are plenty of shaded areas on the stream. Although, the waters are a little polluted, but I assume it's ok? because one of the main reason the plants are carnivours is because their soil is poor in nutrients. 



#11 Offline MyrmecologyMaven - Posted Today, 7:35 PM

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Korea is really humid during summer and the stream really only dries out during winter because it freezes(as far as I know that's ok because the plants hibernate). and there are plenty of shaded areas on the stream. Although, the waters are a little polluted, but I assume it's ok? because one of the main reason the plants are carnivours is because their soil is poor in nutrients. 

They need very pure water to thrive. Rainwater in low nutrient peat bogs is what most have in nature. If I were you I would just enjoy some in pots and if they thrive plant divisions as an experiment. Plant native plants only!






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