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[ruth]

Hello, someone proposed me to exchange ants, exotic ants that can be found on Asia for Attas and Camponotus that can be found on Mexico, but the problem is that we would need to send them via international mail. I have searched about sending ants or other animals to other country but I could not find enough information so I would like to know what do you think. Is this guy trying to cheat or should I trust him and give it a shot? 

 

If you think It's not a bad idea then how can we send each other ants that don't belong to our countries? I have seen some ant keepers own ants that don´t belong to their country for example EL MUNDO DE LAS HORMIGAS who is from Spain and owns many such as the Weaver ant, the Bullet ant, the Bulldog ant, Acromyrmex and many others, I don´t know what he does to have those species, can you get special perms or something?

 

I think this is a complicated theme that needs more attention because I'm sure everyone interested on this hobby would love to get ants from other countries but we don´t want to affect nature transporting species to somewhere they should not live in either.

 

I would love to hear everyone's point of view, thank you.

 

 

[Ants_Dakota]

Hello, someone proposed me to exchange ants, exotic ants that can be found on Asia for Attas and Camponotus that can be found on Mexico, but the problem is that we would need to send them via international mail. I have searched about sending ants or other animals to other country but I could not find enough information so I would like to know what do you think. Is this guy trying to cheat or should I trust him and give it a shot? 

 

If you think It's not a bad idea then how can we send each other ants that don't belong to our countries? I have seen some ant keepers own ants that don´t belong to their country for example EL MUNDO DE LAS HORMIGAS who is from Spain and owns many such as the Weaver ant, the Bullet ant, the Bulldog ant, Acromyrmex and many others, I don´t know what he does to have those species, can you get special perms or something?

 

I think this is a complicated theme that needs more attention because I'm sure everyone interested on this hobby would love to get ants from other countries but we don´t want to affect nature transporting species to somewhere they should not live in either.

 

I would love to hear everyone's point of view, thank you.

You need to have very special permits. This is almost definitely illegal, as getting permits for ants from other countries is very difficult, and near impossible if you want to be able to sell or trade those ants. I am not sure what the Mexican and Asian regulations are, but I know here in the US you can get fined up to $200,000 for illegal transport of plant pests. Do not risk it.

[AntsGodzilla]

 

Hello, someone proposed me to exchange ants, exotic ants that can be found on Asia for Attas and Camponotus that can be found on Mexico, but the problem is that we would need to send them via international mail. I have searched about sending ants or other animals to other country but I could not find enough information so I would like to know what do you think. Is this guy trying to cheat or should I trust him and give it a shot? 

 

If you think It's not a bad idea then how can we send each other ants that don't belong to our countries? I have seen some ant keepers own ants that don´t belong to their country for example EL MUNDO DE LAS HORMIGAS who is from Spain and owns many such as the Weaver ant, the Bullet ant, the Bulldog ant, Acromyrmex and many others, I don´t know what he does to have those species, can you get special perms or something?

 

I think this is a complicated theme that needs more attention because I'm sure everyone interested on this hobby would love to get ants from other countries but we don´t want to affect nature transporting species to somewhere they should not live in either.

 

I would love to hear everyone's point of view, thank you.

You need to have very special permits. This is almost definitely illegal, as getting permits for ants from other countries is very difficult, and near impossible if you want to be able to sell or trade those ants. I am not sure what the Mexican and Asian regulations are, but I know here in the US you can get fined up to $200,000 for illegal transport of plant pests. Do not risk it.

 

I probably know the answer, but is their a permit that would allow me to transport ants from mexico to cali?  It's a much shorter distance.

Edited by AntsGodzilla, October 21 2024 - 11:08 AM.

[Ants_Dakota]

 

 

Hello, someone proposed me to exchange ants, exotic ants that can be found on Asia for Attas and Camponotus that can be found on Mexico, but the problem is that we would need to send them via international mail. I have searched about sending ants or other animals to other country but I could not find enough information so I would like to know what do you think. Is this guy trying to cheat or should I trust him and give it a shot? 

 

If you think It's not a bad idea then how can we send each other ants that don't belong to our countries? I have seen some ant keepers own ants that don´t belong to their country for example EL MUNDO DE LAS HORMIGAS who is from Spain and owns many such as the Weaver ant, the Bullet ant, the Bulldog ant, Acromyrmex and many others, I don´t know what he does to have those species, can you get special perms or something?

 

I think this is a complicated theme that needs more attention because I'm sure everyone interested on this hobby would love to get ants from other countries but we don´t want to affect nature transporting species to somewhere they should not live in either.

 

I would love to hear everyone's point of view, thank you.

You need to have very special permits. This is almost definitely illegal, as getting permits for ants from other countries is very difficult, and near impossible if you want to be able to sell or trade those ants. I am not sure what the Mexican and Asian regulations are, but I know here in the US you can get fined up to $200,000 for illegal transport of plant pests. Do not risk it.

 

I probably know the answer, but is their a permit that would allow me to transport ants from mexico to cali?  It's a much shorter distance.

 

Yes, this is possible, as long as you do not redistribute the ants. I am not sure how likely it is though.

[ruth]

Hello, thank you for your answers, I have decided it's better to not buy ants from other countries because as you said it's quiet difficult to get perms and I'm almost sure the guy was just trying to cheat on me.

 

Do you know if it's legal to send ants that do belong to both countries? For example, if you live in Spain can you send Messor Barbatus to Marruecos? Taking into account that Messor can be found on both places.

Edited by ruth, October 23 2024 - 8:21 AM.

[ANTdrew]

Every country has different laws on this.

[AntsGodzilla]

I think that europe has less restriction the the US, but I'm not 100% positive.

[eea]

I think that europe has less restriction the the US, but I'm not 100% positive.

I believe you can only transport ants throughout the EU but not in or out.

[AntsGodzilla]

 

I think that europe has less restriction the the US, but I'm not 100% positive.

I believe you can only transport ants throughout the EU but not in or out.

 

Yes, this is probably what I heard.

[ruth]

Hello, thanks for your answers. I better search every country's rules about transporting animales and maybe I can make a more detailed post about it.

[TAO777]

海关过不去的，我听说很多都是利用人肉携带（人过蚁过）或者其他我不知道的渠道

The ones that don't make it through customs, I've heard that a lot of them utilize human carriers (people over ants) or some other channel that I don't know about