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#1 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 8:27 AM

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Some of you guys already know that I am getting a crematogaster cerasi colony, but I am still thinking about other species to get, I would of happily got a species of Camponotus but my mom hates them (you guys probably already know why) so it is not up for debate (which kind of gives me a lot less options) so if you guys find any species that you would recommend to me, try convincing me.

 

Ants Godzilla has already recommended a colony of Pogonomyrmex

 

and here is the link to where I am buying from

https://canada-ant-c...ctions/all-ants


Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)


#2 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 16 2024 - 8:51 AM

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I would also recommend Pogonomyrmex, but you'd have to supply them constant, high heat around 85-90 degrees. The best way to do this would be to make an incubator, as just a cable on the tube sometimes isn't sufficient for them. I think species like Solenopsis molesta are pretty fun too, as long as you can contain them. They eat pretty much everything and are super easy to keep.


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#3 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 8:54 AM

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I would also recommend Pogonomyrmex, but you'd have to supply them constant, high heat around 85-90 degrees. The best way to do this would be to make an incubator, as just a cable on the tube sometimes isn't sufficient for them. I think species like Solenopsis molesta are pretty fun too, as long as you can contain them. They eat pretty much everything and are super easy to keep.

I have already had experience with them and find them in masses and certain days during August and September


Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)


#4 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 16 2024 - 8:58 AM

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I've taken a liking to small myrmicines, so I'd also recommend Temnothorax to you. I remember you caught a queen of one sometime in the past, so you should definitely try keeping a colony of them. You might also be able to get Pheidole californica as well, so I definitely recommend those. Those are very fun to keep, with their big-headed majors and all.


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#5 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 9:11 AM

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I've taken a liking to small myrmicines, so I'd also recommend Temnothorax to you. I remember you caught a queen of one sometime in the past, so you should definitely try keeping a colony of them. You might also be able to get Pheidole californica as well, so I definitely recommend those. Those are very fun to keep, with their big-headed majors and all.

Wow, you have a lot of recommendations!

I will take them all into consideration


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Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)


#6 Online Ants_Dakota - Posted October 16 2024 - 10:41 AM

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Do you mind mentioning your budget?


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#7 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 10:50 AM

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Do you mind mentioning your budget?

I guess about 75 dollars cad (54 dollars usd)

 

but I am able to make exceptions


Edited by OwlThatLikesAnts, October 16 2024 - 10:51 AM.

Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)


#8 Offline Yusteponant - Posted October 16 2024 - 11:19 AM

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Me personally I would get CA 02 they are my favorite species and they are really fun to keep


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#9 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 16 2024 - 11:37 AM

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Me personally I would get CA 02 they are my favorite species and they are really fun to keep

He's not able to get Camponotus us-ca02 in Canada. The link seems to redirect us to a "US only" page, so he likely won't be able to get any of the species listed there.


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#10 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted October 16 2024 - 2:21 PM

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Some of you guys already know that I am getting a crematogaster cerasi colony, but I am still thinking about other species to get, I would of happily got a species of Camponotus but my mom hates them (you guys probably already know why) so it is not up for debate (which kind of gives me a lot less options) so if you guys find any species that you would recommend to me, try convincing me.

 

Ants Godzilla has already recommended a colony of Pogonomyrmex

 

and here is the link to where I am buying from

https://canada-ant-c...ctions/all-ants

I mean if you wanted to wait a little longer for them to be in stock, a pheidole colony would be cool.


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Pogonomyrmex Rugosus journal
Myrmecocystus Deplisis journal
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8


#11 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 3:38 PM

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Me personally I would get CA 02 they are my favorite species and they are really fun to keep

He's not able to get Camponotus us-ca02 in Canada. The link seems to redirect us to a "US only" page, so he likely won't be able to get any of the species listed there.

 

It probably redirects to that page because you and Yusteponant have American IP addresses. It redirected to that page for me as well.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#12 Online Ants_Dakota - Posted October 16 2024 - 3:42 PM

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Do you mind mentioning your budget?

I guess about 75 dollars cad (54 dollars usd)

 

but I am able to make exceptions

 

If buying ants is what you are set on, you can go that route, but for that budget, I would honestly recommend investing in a blacklighting setup. An old thread I created can be found here, and it contains useful information that I used to create my own blacklight setup. If enough people are interested, I can create a thread on that. You will find so many more queens that you can buy.


Edited by Ants_Dakota, October 16 2024 - 3:42 PM.

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Attention Ant-Keepers in South Dakota! Join the SoDak(Society Of Dakotan Ant Keepers)

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My Micro Ants Journal

My Pogonomyrmex occidentalis Journal


#13 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 5:04 PM

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Do you mind mentioning your budget?

I guess about 75 dollars cad (54 dollars usd)

 

but I am able to make exceptions

 

If buying ants is what you are set on, you can go that route, but for that budget, I would honestly recommend investing in a blacklighting setup. An old thread I created can be found here, and it contains useful information that I used to create my own blacklight setup. If enough people are interested, I can create a thread on that. You will find so many more queens that you can buy.

 

I am in a more "urban" area where when backlighting only attracts lasius and tertras on certain months, (and an occasional Camponotus penns if I am lucky, but I am not allowed to keep)

I also kind of see these "borders" where you have forest ants (like Camponotus and Myrmica) and urban ants (Lasius and Tetramorium) and whenever they cross that border, they kill each other (except Formica, they like to completely ignore those rules and are literally everywhere)

 

Plus, I do not have as much variety as the shop shows.

But anyways thanks Ants Dakota for the black light trap suggestion

 

Also for the people in the US, press the the icon in the top left corner that says USD (for you) and press the option that says CAD to see the ants I am able to get 


Edited by OwlThatLikesAnts, October 16 2024 - 5:06 PM.

Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)


#14 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 5:05 PM

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Me personally I would get CA 02 they are my favorite species and they are really fun to keep

Me too but I am not in the states  :*(


Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)


#15 Online Ants_Dakota - Posted October 16 2024 - 6:38 PM

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Do you mind mentioning your budget?

I guess about 75 dollars cad (54 dollars usd)

 

but I am able to make exceptions

 

If buying ants is what you are set on, you can go that route, but for that budget, I would honestly recommend investing in a blacklighting setup. An old thread I created can be found here, and it contains useful information that I used to create my own blacklight setup. If enough people are interested, I can create a thread on that. You will find so many more queens that you can buy.

 

I am in a more "urban" area where when backlighting only attracts lasius and tertras on certain months, (and an occasional Camponotus penns if I am lucky, but I am not allowed to keep)

I also kind of see these "borders" where you have forest ants (like Camponotus and Myrmica) and urban ants (Lasius and Tetramorium) and whenever they cross that border, they kill each other (except Formica, they like to completely ignore those rules and are literally everywhere)

 

Plus, I do not have as much variety as the shop shows.

But anyways thanks Ants Dakota for the black light trap suggestion

 

Also for the people in the US, press the the icon in the top left corner that says USD (for you) and press the option that says CAD to see the ants I am able to get 

 

Fair enough, but I think there is a lot more diversity than meets the eye...


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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

My Nationwide Ant Shop Here I have PPQ-526 permits to ship ants nationwide

Attention Ant-Keepers in South Dakota! Join the SoDak(Society Of Dakotan Ant Keepers)

My Formica sp. Journal

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My Micro Ants Journal

My Pogonomyrmex occidentalis Journal


#16 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 16 2024 - 7:49 PM

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I agree with what Ants_Dakota said, there's likely many more species than you'd expect. This is the same with my neighborhood, as I thought it was overrun by Argentines, but ended up finding at least a half dozen more species I never would have noticed if I hadn't specifically looked for them.


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#17 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 18 2024 - 8:22 AM

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I agree with what Ants_Dakota said, there's likely many more species than you'd expect. This is the same with my neighborhood, as I thought it was overrun by Argentines, but ended up finding at least a half dozen more species I never would have noticed if I hadn't specifically looked for them.

If we are speaking about cryptic species, I have found some like that and the myrmica and Camponotus were found by mistake, but other than that there is not much diversity here compared even to Ontario

 

what is even more funny is that more than half of our species is found near Ontario’s border


Edited by OwlThatLikesAnts, October 18 2024 - 8:24 AM.

Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)


#18 Online Ants_Dakota - Posted October 18 2024 - 8:30 AM

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I agree with what Ants_Dakota said, there's likely many more species than you'd expect. This is the same with my neighborhood, as I thought it was overrun by Argentines, but ended up finding at least a half dozen more species I never would have noticed if I hadn't specifically looked for them.

If we are speaking about cryptic species, I have found some like that and the myrmica and Camponotus were found by mistake, but other than that there is not much diversity here compared even to Ontario

 

what is even more funny is that more than half of our species is found near Ontario’s border

 

Both of those species can be specifically targeted using a blacklight as they both fly in the evening or night, allowing you a great opportunity to catch harder to find species like those on a more regular basis.


Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

My Nationwide Ant Shop Here I have PPQ-526 permits to ship ants nationwide

Attention Ant-Keepers in South Dakota! Join the SoDak(Society Of Dakotan Ant Keepers)

My Formica sp. Journal

My Lasius sp. Journal

My Micro Ants Journal

My Pogonomyrmex occidentalis Journal


#19 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 19 2024 - 5:01 PM

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I agree with what Ants_Dakota said, there's likely many more species than you'd expect. This is the same with my neighborhood, as I thought it was overrun by Argentines, but ended up finding at least a half dozen more species I never would have noticed if I hadn't specifically looked for them.

If we are speaking about cryptic species, I have found some like that and the myrmica and Camponotus were found by mistake, but other than that there is not much diversity here compared even to Ontario

 

what is even more funny is that more than half of our species is found near Ontario’s border

 

Both of those species can be specifically targeted using a blacklight as they both fly in the evening or night, allowing you a great opportunity to catch harder to find species like those on a more regular basis.

 

Right now I cannot keep Camponotus and I am more interested in Crematogaster than Myrmica


Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)


#20 Online Ants_Dakota - Posted October 19 2024 - 6:09 PM

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I agree with what Ants_Dakota said, there's likely many more species than you'd expect. This is the same with my neighborhood, as I thought it was overrun by Argentines, but ended up finding at least a half dozen more species I never would have noticed if I hadn't specifically looked for them.

If we are speaking about cryptic species, I have found some like that and the myrmica and Camponotus were found by mistake, but other than that there is not much diversity here compared even to Ontario

 

what is even more funny is that more than half of our species is found near Ontario’s border

 

Both of those species can be specifically targeted using a blacklight as they both fly in the evening or night, allowing you a great opportunity to catch harder to find species like those on a more regular basis.

 

Right now I cannot keep Camponotus and I am more interested in Crematogaster than Myrmica

 

In that case, it looks like purchasing a Crematogaster is the best choice for you.


Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

My Nationwide Ant Shop Here I have PPQ-526 permits to ship ants nationwide

Attention Ant-Keepers in South Dakota! Join the SoDak(Society Of Dakotan Ant Keepers)

My Formica sp. Journal

My Lasius sp. Journal

My Micro Ants Journal

My Pogonomyrmex occidentalis Journal





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