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#21 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted October 7 2024 - 7:10 PM

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Update 10/7/24 (also questions): I bought her a heating pad and she seems to really like it :), when I first put it in this morning I put only the very edge of her setup against the heat pad, when I got home this afternoon she was trying to dig a new nest on the side where the heat pad was, so I moved it to where more like half of her container is on it, the container has gotten very humid, as I can tell by the condensation, is this a bad thing, or should I just leave it and let the substrate dry out a bit more? Also how long should I have it on/off, or should it just stay on all the time? Thanks :)


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#22 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 8 2024 - 6:54 AM

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That is something that most keepers would try to avoid because of visibility problems. Did you have any problems with it before when she was digging the nest?


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#23 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted October 8 2024 - 7:07 AM

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That is something that most keepers would try to avoid because of visibility problems. Did you have any problems with it before when she was digging the nest?

It just started becoming humid when I put the heat pad on, because some of the water was evaporating I guess.


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#24 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted October 8 2024 - 8:33 AM

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That is something that most keepers would try to avoid because of visibility problems. Did you have any problems with it before when she was digging the nest?

It just started becoming humid when I put the heat pad on, because some of the water was evaporating I guess.

 

Yeah I know that but did you move the pad because she was digging? And also you can try to do a day/night cycle by increasing and decreasing the temp


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1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

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#25 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 8 2024 - 8:51 AM

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Raising and decreasing the heat really isn't necessary at all. Founding them in constant high heat has the best results. Typically, people found them in just a tube with some seeds and leave it an incubator for a month. A simple way to make an incubator is to get a styrofoam box and stick part of heat cable inside.


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#26 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted October 8 2024 - 9:21 AM

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Raising and decreasing the heat really isn't necessary at all. Founding them in constant high heat has the best results. Typically, people found them in just a tube with some seeds and leave it an incubator for a month. A simple way to make an incubator is to get a styrofoam box and stick part of heat cable inside.

She is already in a setup where she has dug a nest, so I can't really get her out now haha, how would you suggest I get the humidity to stop?


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#27 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted October 8 2024 - 10:21 AM

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Raising and decreasing the heat really isn't necessary at all. Founding them in constant high heat has the best results. Typically, people found them in just a tube with some seeds and leave it an incubator for a month. A simple way to make an incubator is to get a styrofoam box and stick part of heat cable inside.

How do you know raising and lowering the heat is not good? Just curious.


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#28 Offline kenonical - Posted October 21 2024 - 3:11 PM

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have any updates for us? 



#29 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted October 21 2024 - 4:38 PM

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have any updates for us? 

Nothing really, she has dug even more chambers and she has also coated the inside of the attached test tube with substrate, but not living in it. She also has a few more eggs now.


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#30 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted November 1 2024 - 5:59 PM

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Update 11/1/2024

One larva  :lol:  
I couldn't get a picture because as soon as I picked up her formicarium to check on her as her chambers are all right on the plastic on the bottom she promptly picked it, and the few eggs up and ran off haha


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#31 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted November 5 2024 - 10:13 PM

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Update 11/6/2024:  She has one pupa now, I guess by the time I realized she had a larva it was already almost done with the larva stage, as it was very big and it is now a pupa, and she also has a very small larva and 5-8 eggs from what I can tell, so Nanitic/Nanitics soon :lol: . I've got seeds coming in the mail this week for her. 

 

Edit: how long are the different stages for these girls?


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#32 Offline kenonical - Posted November 6 2024 - 2:19 PM

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about 1-2 weeks for each stage, but it depends on the humidity and heat.


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#33 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted November 6 2024 - 3:37 PM

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about 1-2 weeks for each stage, but it depends on the humidity and heat.

It is very humid and pretty warm in her setup so I guess that helps, I am guessing hers are growing in around one week because that larva became a pupa very fast and I checked on the other larva today and it is already significantly bigger.


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#34 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted November 9 2024 - 5:08 PM

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11/9/24

I went to check on her this evening and she has passed. She was fine last night, taking care of her brood, gathering the seeds I had just gotten in the mail for her, etc. (other Pogonomyrmex things) she had just recently gotten a pupa and she had a larva and some eggs as well, she seemed to be doing so well, so I have no clue why she died, but this will be the end of the journal, hopefully I will be able to order some more in the future, but it will not be the same as collecting her myself in Utah. 

 

I have given her brood to my T. immigrans colony to see what would happen, as that is the only other colony I have on heat right now, so I will see how that goes but yeah.


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#35 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted November 9 2024 - 5:25 PM

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That's so sad! I hope you can get Pogonomyrmex again.


 

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#36 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted November 9 2024 - 5:27 PM

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That's so sad! I hope you can get Pogonomyrmex again.

Yeah I hope so to, but like I said it won't be the same as collecting them myself.  I wonder if the seeds somehow killed her....... because she was fine before I gave her the seeds.



#37 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted November 9 2024 - 6:12 PM

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That's so sad! I hope you can get Pogonomyrmex again.

Yeah I hope so to, but like I said it won't be the same as collecting them myself.  I wonder if the seeds somehow killed her....... because she was fine before I gave her the seeds.

 

Can you send the link for the seeds?


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 

Myrmecocystus depilis

 


#38 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted November 9 2024 - 6:13 PM

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That's so sad! I hope you can get Pogonomyrmex again.

Yeah I hope so to, but like I said it won't be the same as collecting them myself.  I wonder if the seeds somehow killed her....... because she was fine before I gave her the seeds.

 

Can you send the link for the seeds?

 

I just got them from stateside, it's probably not the seeds but that's the only thing that was different so that's the only thing I can think of.



#39 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted November 9 2024 - 6:15 PM

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A lot of wild caught queens are just bad and will die for no reason.


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And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

Godzilla thread

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 

Myrmecocystus depilis

 


#40 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted November 9 2024 - 6:17 PM

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A lot of wild caught queens are just bad and will die for no reason.

I have had her for 6 months now though and she had brood and she was about to get her first workers so it makes no sense.






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