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[shuwen2.0]

Did they have permits to bring them to california?

idk, but does it matter?

It is pretty important, yes. The USDA is pretty strict about importing ants, you can view some guidelines found here. You will need to find out if the person who gave them to you has a permit for the importation of Messor sp. ants. If not, you may want to exterminate the colonies, as keeping them would be illegal. It is sad that this liability falls on you even though it often is the fault of people who knowingly sell ants illegally and you are just a naive ant keeper. Although Messor sp. may not be the worst ant to have in the US, as they are mainly granivorous and don't tend aphids, it is still important to follow the law.

They should have permits I didn’t ask

[Ants_Dakota]

 

 

 

Did they have permits to bring them to california?

idk, but does it matter?

It is pretty important, yes. The USDA is pretty strict about importing ants, you can view some guidelines found here. You will need to find out if the person who gave them to you has a permit for the importation of Messor sp. ants. If not, you may want to exterminate the colonies, as keeping them would be illegal. It is sad that this liability falls on you even though it often is the fault of people who knowingly sell ants illegally and you are just a naive ant keeper. Although Messor sp. may not be the worst ant to have in the US, as they are mainly granivorous and don't tend aphids, it is still important to follow the law.

They should have permits I didn’t ask

 

As long as you are confident and have good reason to believe so (they should display it prominently on their website or store) than there is no reason to worry.

[shuwen2.0]

Day 19 8.29
Colony no1 is popping off rn, tons of pupae, lots of small larvae that just got separated from the egg cluster
The other two isn’t doing much
Every colony is growing steadily, new hatchlings every few days

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[shuwen2.0]

Day 27 9.6
More brood for colony no1, they are really picking up speed
Colony no2 a huge pupae formed, it is likely the super major class, it is really rare for such a small colony to produce a super major, I am afraid the colony might eat the super major before it could even hatch,
So I gave this colony double protein every week which is freeze dried fresh water shrimps.
For colony no3 a small pile of brood had formed

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Did they have permits to bring them to california?

idk, but does it matter?

It is pretty important, yes. The USDA is pretty strict about importing ants, you can view some guidelines found here. You will need to find out if the person who gave them to you has a permit for the importation of Messor sp. ants. If not, you may want to exterminate the colonies, as keeping them would be illegal. It is sad that this liability falls on you even though it often is the fault of people who knowingly sell ants illegally and you are just a naive ant keeper. Although Messor sp. may not be the worst ant to have in the US, as they are mainly granivorous and don't tend aphids, it is still important to follow the law.

They should have permits I didn’t ask

 

As long as you are confident and have good reason to believe so (they should display it prominently on their website or store) than there is no reason to worry.

 

 

The sale would still be illegal. Even if the seller did have permits to import them (which I doubt) they are not permitted to bring the organisms out of the containment facility. This especially includes selling them. For the most part, U.S. states only allow American ant sellers to sell certain species to the states to which they are native. Seeing as Messor is not native to North America the chance of any state would grant any seller permits to sell them anywhere in this country is practically zero.

 

Insects and Mites | Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (usda.gov)

[shuwen2.0]

 

 

 

 

 

Did they have permits to bring them to california?

idk, but does it matter?

It is pretty important, yes. The USDA is pretty strict about importing ants, you can view some guidelines found here. You will need to find out if the person who gave them to you has a permit for the importation of Messor sp. ants. If not, you may want to exterminate the colonies, as keeping them would be illegal. It is sad that this liability falls on you even though it often is the fault of people who knowingly sell ants illegally and you are just a naive ant keeper. Although Messor sp. may not be the worst ant to have in the US, as they are mainly granivorous and don't tend aphids, it is still important to follow the law.

They should have permits I didn’t ask

 

As long as you are confident and have good reason to believe so (they should display it prominently on their website or store) than there is no reason to worry.

 

 

The sale would still be illegal. Even if the seller did have permits to import them (which I doubt) they are not permitted to bring the organisms out of the containment facility. This especially includes selling them. For the most part, U.S. states only allow American ant sellers to sell certain species to the states to which they are native. Seeing as Messor is not native to North America the chance of any state would grant any seller permits to sell them anywhere in this country is practically zero.

 

Insects and Mites | Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (usda.gov)

got it, I'll tell my friend about it, he didn't sell these ants to me, I'm just taking care of these ants for him.