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#1 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted September 23 2024 - 6:56 PM

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What kind of ant queens might I be able to find around central Virginia right now? Thanks for any info.



#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 24 2024 - 2:13 AM

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It’s been cooler than average, so nothing really has been flying. Parasitic Lasius is about all you can hope for at this point.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#3 Offline OiledOlives - Posted September 24 2024 - 9:11 AM

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Adding on to what Antdrew said, Lasius aphidicola will be flying within a week or two (if they haven't already) and Lasius claviger will be flying in approximately 3-4 weeks.

For general collection, colonies are still very prevalent under rocks and in wood. 


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#4 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted September 24 2024 - 9:43 AM

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Adding on to what Antdrew said, Lasius aphidicola will be flying within a week or two (if they haven't already) and Lasius claviger will be flying in approximately 3-4 weeks.

For general collection, colonies are still very prevalent under rocks and in wood. 

How would I go about safely collecting a small colony without missing too many members or harming any of them? Also what colonies could I probably be able to find? Thanks for any info.



#5 Online OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted September 24 2024 - 10:15 AM

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Also many cryptic species are flying right now for me


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Currently keeping:

 

1x Solenopsis molesta

1x Formica subsericea (polygynous) has WORKERS!!!  :yahoo: RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

2x Lasius niger (one is polygynous and the other is monogynous) 


#6 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted September 24 2024 - 10:28 AM

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Also many cryptic species are flying right now for me

What exactly are cryptic species? 



#7 Offline OiledOlives - Posted September 24 2024 - 12:52 PM

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Adding on to what Antdrew said, Lasius aphidicola will be flying within a week or two (if they haven't already) and Lasius claviger will be flying in approximately 3-4 weeks.

For general collection, colonies are still very prevalent under rocks and in wood. 

How would I go about safely collecting a small colony without missing too many members or harming any of them? Also what colonies could I probably be able to find? Thanks for any info.

 

You need an insect aspirator or a vacuum to quickly collect ants. What species you find depends on how you collect, the habitat in which you collect, temperature, etc. I have a very short list here - https://atlanticants...s-of-n-piedmont

You may also still be able to find Brachymyrmex depilis flying. I had several queens and males fly each time I blacklighted in the last month (My last collection - 11 September 2024)

 


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#8 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 24 2024 - 12:56 PM

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I was going to mention Brachymyrmex depilis, but I was doubtful they’d fly in these cool temperatures. Below average highs are predicted the rest of the month. None of the species mentioned are great for beginners, unfortunately.
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#9 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted September 24 2024 - 3:03 PM

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I was going to mention Brachymyrmex depilis, but I was doubtful they’d fly in these cool temperatures. Below average highs are predicted the rest of the month. None of the species mentioned are great for beginners, unfortunately.

Yeah I am not really a beginner though I have been keeping ants for about 8 months now, I guess compared to some people that's not a long time, but I do have a good amount of experience. It is pouring for the next week or so straight though because of that hurricane but I will probably start looking afterwards.



#10 Offline rptraut - Posted Yesterday, 12:32 AM

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Hello 1tsm3jack;

 

At this time of year, I've found it productive to take a walk in an old growth woodlot near me where I have permission to collect responsibly.   I've found queens and small colonies of Temnothorax, Lasius, and Myrmica ants in hollow acorns and hollow walnuts.   I go early in the morning before any ants go foraging and early enough in the fall that the leaves haven't fallen off the trees, covering everything up and making the search more difficult.   

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#11 Offline Yusteponant - Posted Yesterday, 12:37 PM

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Also many cryptic species are flying right now for me

What exactly are cryptic species? 

 

Cryptic species are ants that live underground the only time they come out is during nuptial flights 



#12 Offline 1tsm3jack - Posted Yesterday, 3:01 PM

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Also many cryptic species are flying right now for me

What exactly are cryptic species? 

 

Cryptic species are ants that live underground the only time they come out is during nuptial flights 

 

What so they don't forage or anything?



#13 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted Yesterday, 3:07 PM

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Also many cryptic species are flying right now for me

What exactly are cryptic species? 

 

Cryptic species are ants that live underground the only time they come out is during nuptial flights 

 

What so they don't forage or anything?

 

Most cryptic ants are blind, and some of them will farm root insects.


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I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)                                                                                                                                                        Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

 

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant                                                                                                             Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 


#14 Online RushmoreAnts - Posted Today, 10:32 AM

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What so they don't forage or anything?

 

 

Most cryptic ants are blind, and some of them will farm root insects.

 

Most ant species, cryptic or not, have poor vision, and their eyes only serve to distinguish between light and dark (hence why they get so disturbed when checked on). Many Camponotus and Formica species have better eyesight, being able to make out shapes to help navigate. Yeah, that's good eyesight for an ant. Most ants rely on smell and touch as primary sense, however, through their antennae. 

 

Cryptic species usually hunt springtails and other small invertebrates which live underground and in leaflitter where they live. They do forage, just not in the open or above ground. Their colonies usually don't get larger than 200 workers, and their individual workers are generally independent compared to ants with larger colonies, preferring to hunt alone as opposed to going back to the colony for reinforcements. In most of the temperate U.S., the most successful cryptic species is Ponera pennsylvanica, which is a perfect example of the traits of cryptic species listed above.

 

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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Formerly called AntsDakota, not to be confused with Ants_Dakota (hence the name change). You can still call me Adak.

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. subsericea, unidentified fusca group sp. 

Formica cf. ravida, cf. obscuriventris

Myrmica sp.


#15 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted Today, 10:34 AM

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Bulldog ants also have great eyesight.

I'm pretty sure this is true, so feel free to correct me, but I heard that they could follow your finger from five feet away.


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I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)                                                                                                                                                        Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

 

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant                                                                                                             Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 


#16 Online RushmoreAnts - Posted Today, 10:42 AM

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I believe I also heard that on AusAnts.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Formerly called AntsDakota, not to be confused with Ants_Dakota (hence the name change). You can still call me Adak.

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. subsericea, unidentified fusca group sp. 

Formica cf. ravida, cf. obscuriventris

Myrmica sp.





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