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Are you able to buy/sell solonopsis in california?

Started By AntsGodzilla , Sep 22 2024 4:19 PM
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#1 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 22 2024 - 4:19 PM

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Just for the future, are you able to but/sell solenopsis species in Cali? They are highly invasive, so I was wondering if I would be able to but them sometime in the future or if it's illegal to spread them to other places.


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#2 Offline eea - Posted September 22 2024 - 4:33 PM

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You can't sell Solenopsis invicta, geminata, richteri, or saevissima in California but xyloni amblychila aurea and the thief ants are okay.


#3 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 22 2024 - 4:39 PM

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xyloni are still amazing, ridiculous fast growing and aggressive. invicta, geminata, and richteri can be overwhelming for some people, in my opinion xyloni is the perfect balance. Wish I could get my hands on some.

 

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#4 Offline eea - Posted September 22 2024 - 4:43 PM

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geminata richteri and saevissima don't live in California either way.


#5 Offline ReignofRage - Posted September 22 2024 - 5:44 PM

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Solenopsis invicta can be sold and transported only within the quarantine zones in California. The several native species (5 S. geminata-group spp., 2 S. fugax-group spp., ~9+ S. molesta-group spp., ~3-5 S. pygmaea-group spp.) can be sold and transported through the entire state. If you find S. invicta outside of quarantine zones, such as these Inaturalist observations, report it to the CDFA.


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#6 Offline eea - Posted September 22 2024 - 6:12 PM

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Solenopsis invicta can be sold and transported only within the quarantine zones in California. The several native species (5 S. geminata-group spp., 2 S. fugax-group spp., ~9+ S. molesta-group spp., ~3-5 S. pygmaea-group spp.) can be sold and transported through the entire state. If you find S. invicta outside of quarantine zones, such as these Inaturalist observations, report it to the CDFA.

But on Formiculture does the fire ant rule apply in the quarantine zone?


#7 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 22 2024 - 6:48 PM

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ok thanks. I've also seen that it is hard to get your hands on xyloni


Edited by AntsGodzilla, September 22 2024 - 6:50 PM.

I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)                                                                                                                                                        Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

 

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant                                                                                                             Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

#8 Offline eea - Posted September 22 2024 - 7:16 PM

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ok thanks. I've also seen that it is hard to get your hands on xyloni

I see people selling them here for 10 dollars and they usually stay up for a while, not sure if they are rare in the wild though.


#9 Offline bmb1bee - Posted September 22 2024 - 8:11 PM

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ok thanks. I've also seen that it is hard to get your hands on xyloni

I see people selling them here for 10 dollars and they usually stay up for a while, not sure if they are rare in the wild though.

 

Definitely not a rare species, at least in SoCal.

 

ok thanks. I've also seen that it is hard to get your hands on xyloni

They are by no means difficult to get and are quite common throughout the market.


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#10 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 23 2024 - 10:58 AM

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where i am in norcal I've almost never seen solenopsis


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)                                                                                                                                                        Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

 

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant                                                                                                             Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

#11 Offline bmb1bee - Posted September 23 2024 - 7:29 PM

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where i am in norcal I've almost never seen solenopsis

There have to be some colonies of Solenopsis in the molesta species complex in your area, as they are very common even though you might not notice them at first. You could also find populations of Solenopsis xyloni in NorCal, likely through iNaturalist observations.


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#12 Offline jabasson - Posted September 23 2024 - 10:09 PM

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where i am in norcal I've almost never seen solenopsis

There have to be some colonies of Solenopsis in the molesta species complex in your area, as they are very common even though you might not notice them at first. You could also find populations of Solenopsis xyloni in NorCal, likely through iNaturalist observations.

 

I second this. I'm in socal and had never seen any fire ants around my house, but if I left a blacklight on at night I would find hundreds of solenopsis queens wandering around and even more I would find in my pool during the day. You might not realize just how many are in your area. I'm not sure the exact species but fire ant queens are very easy to obtain during summer flights. 

 

Edit: I say blacklight but I really just meant the LED light we have for our backyard. 


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