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Do ants keep brood in the big ant hills.


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#1 Offline evanmancini2011 - Posted September 21 2024 - 4:28 PM

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I have a lot of pogonomyrmex occidentalis ant hills near me and was just wondering if they keep brood inside the hills?

 

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#2 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted September 21 2024 - 4:34 PM

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I don't know about them but in Canada, Lasius like to do that on days that re not so hot, usually it is pupa and a few larva that are pupating


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1x Formica subsericea, 20+ workers

1x Crematogaster cerasi 2 workers with brood (still growing)

 

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#3 Offline AntsTx - Posted September 21 2024 - 4:39 PM

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I have a lot of pogonomyrmex occidentalis ant hills near me and was just wondering if they keep brood inside the hills?

 

Thank You!

Evan

They generally don't keep them inside of their hills, but usually 3+ inches below the hill 


Currently Keeping:

Camponotus texanus - 3 workers                                           

Camponotus spp. - 15-20 workers                         

Camponotus pennsylvanicus - 95-100 workers                                                                                                                                         

Formica spp. - 5 workers

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis - 20-30 workers

Crematogaster spp. - 75-100 workers 

Novomessor albisetosus - 20-30 workers


#4 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 21 2024 - 4:53 PM

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Depends on the ant. Read the book Ant Architecture by Walter Tschinkel for an elegant description of how ants shape their nests.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#5 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 21 2024 - 6:23 PM

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Agreed. According to AntWiki, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis "mounds play a role in thermoregulation of the nest." So the purpose of that big mound is to regulate the nests' internal temperature. It can be inferred that this would mean the ants would keep their pupae close to the surface, as the species loves the heat, which helps their brood develop faster, and "surfaces exposed to the sun are warmer," though that cannot be confirmed directly by that article. Why do you need the pupae in the first place? The species is hardy and fast growing, so brood boosting is not necessary. There are no parasitic Pogonomyrmex species in North America that produce workers, only workerless species such as P. anergismus and P. colei which prey on P. rugosus, and thus aren't keepable in a sustainable fashion.

 

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis - AntWiki

 

Pogonomyrmex rugosus - AntWiki


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#6 Offline evanmancini2011 - Posted September 21 2024 - 7:35 PM

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Agreed. According to AntWiki, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis "mounds play a role in thermoregulation of the nest." So the purpose of that big mound is to regulate the nests' internal temperature. It can be inferred that this would mean the ants would keep their pupae close to the surface, as the species loves the heat, which helps their brood develop faster, and "surfaces exposed to the sun are warmer," though that cannot be confirmed directly by that article. Why do you need the pupae in the first place? The species is hardy and fast growing, so brood boosting is not necessary. There are no parasitic Pogonomyrmex species in North America that produce workers, only workerless species such as P. anergismus and P. colei which prey on P. rugosus, and thus aren't keepable in a sustainable fashion.

 

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis - AntWiki

 

Pogonomyrmex rugosus - AntWiki

Don't worry I was not planning on brood busting my pogonomyrmex occidentalis ant colony I was just wondering what stuff do they keep in the big hills!

Thank you!


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#7 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 21 2024 - 7:44 PM

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In that case, as previously mentioned, they're architecturally designed to be natural furnaces and A/C Units. Quite amazing how complex ant societies are, which is why they interest me above all invertebrates.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis





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