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Tiny Queen ID

Started By OwlThatLikesAnts , Sep 20 2024 1:18 PM

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#1 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted September 20 2024 - 1:18 PM

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So I found her under some old grass clippings, she is about 3mm and was found in Quebec Montreal

 

Here is some pics, this one is with her underside:

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Another one with her topside:

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Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

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#2 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 20 2024 - 2:25 PM

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For the most accurate ID, please follow this template. It is a good habit to get into.


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#3 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted September 20 2024 - 4:03 PM

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Posted 2024-09-20

For the most accurate ID, please follow this template. It is a good habit to get into.

K so...

She was found in a pile of dead grass clipping's mixed with dirt near a highway

I found her at 1:42pm

She is orange with a bit of brown on the sides

2 petiole nodes with tiny spines

has pretty big eyes 

 

the rest I can not do or I don't see some features cuz of size


Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)

#4 Offline OiledOlives - Posted September 20 2024 - 5:12 PM

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Temnothorax


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#5 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted September 20 2024 - 5:20 PM

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Temnothorax

Do you know what species?


Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)

#6 Offline OiledOlives - Posted September 20 2024 - 8:56 PM

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Not attempting species ID without better photos or workers in this area


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#7 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted September 21 2024 - 4:47 AM

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ok, it is really hard to take pics using IPhone when the queen is that small


Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)

#8 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 21 2024 - 6:15 AM

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 like OliedOlives said its hard with those pics to get a proper Id.You can get get a clip on macro lens for your phone to make the pics better.


Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#9 Offline Stubyvast - Posted September 21 2024 - 11:41 AM

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Temnothorax

Yes it would make sense as Temnothorax, especially based on their size. I believe they usually nest in acorn shells and their colonies never get very large. A lot of Temnothorax are slave raiders, if I'm correct. 


Currently raising: 

Myrmica rubra (1 queen +  ~5 workers)

Lasius niger (single queen + ~90+ workers)

Lasius neoniger (3 single queen + brood)

Formica spp. (Queen [likely parasitic, needs brood])

Formica pacifica (Queen)

Also keeping a friend's tetramorium immigrans for the foreseeable future. Thanks CoffeBlock!

#10 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 21 2024 - 6:51 PM

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According to AntMaps' Diversity View, the Temnothorax species in Quebec are T. ambiguus, T. americanus, and T. longispinosus. T. curvispinosus' range also borders Quebec, so I would not discount that species either (According to AntMaps Tetramorium immigrans and Camponotus americanus are not in South Dakota, but they most certainly are). T. americanus (the slave raiding species) and T. longispinosus can be ruled out due to their piceous pigmentation (they're dark in coloration), so it is likely either T. ambiguus or T. curvispinosus. See this ID thread for a similar identification, Oiled Olives goes into much detail on the differences between the two.

 

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Temnothorax longispinosus - AntWiki

 

It should be noted that care between these two species is all but identical, so the individual species only matters for your own personal satisfaction.


Edited by RushmoreAnts, September 21 2024 - 6:54 PM.

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Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

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