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ID Possible Lasius Queen, Eastern Ontario, Canada (9/11/2024)

Started By Hank.Scorpio , Sep 10 2024 10:25 PM

Best Answer OiledOlives , September 11 2024 - 5:10 AM

Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.

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#1 Offline Hank.Scorpio - Posted September 10 2024 - 10:25 PM

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Location/Habitat: Suburb
Date of collection: Wed 14 Aug 2024
Length: ~8mm
Nuptial flight time: Wed 14 Aug 2024 ~6:30-7pm landing time
 
Appears to be a Lasius queen, but does anyone have an idea of the species or it's possible quirks such as being parasitic?
Caught several of these the evening of the flight, then another the following day digging a hole around some brickwork and gravel.
 
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#2 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 11 2024 - 4:31 AM

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I can not guarantee what species of Lasius that is, but it is definitely in the neoniger complex. It is also not parasitic, and is fully claustral.


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#3 Offline OiledOlives - Posted September 11 2024 - 5:10 AM   Best Answer

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Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.


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#4 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 11 2024 - 5:44 AM

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Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.

I believe he was referring to the term niger complex. Take this excerpt from AntWiki: "Wilson (1955) - The worker is best distinguished by its abundant standing appendage pilosity combined with the clypeal outline and mandibular dentition characteristic of the "niger complex" (Lasius niger, Lasius alienus, Lasius emarginatus, Lasius productus)." Note this is out of date, as North American alienus is now americanus, etc., though I believe that general species group is what he was referring to.


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Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.

Why I don't do ID's :facepalm:I think the coloration of the whole image threw me off


Edited by Ants_Dakota, September 11 2024 - 8:31 AM.

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#6 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 11 2024 - 8:30 AM

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Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.

I believe he was referring to the term niger complex. Take this excerpt from AntWiki: "Wilson (1955) - The worker is best distinguished by its abundant standing appendage pilosity combined with the clypeal outline and mandibular dentition characteristic of the "niger complex" (Lasius niger, Lasius alienus, Lasius emarginatus, Lasius productus)." Note this is out of date, as North American alienus is now americanus, etc., though I believe that general species group is what he was referring to.

 

Yes, i attempted to "revise" it by referring to them by their north american ID names so that American ant keepers can correctly ID. I shall correct it to neoniger/niger group in the future. But, as it appears I did not ID correctly, there is no need to pay attention to my post.


Edited by Ants_Dakota, September 11 2024 - 9:23 AM.

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#7 Offline Hank.Scorpio - Posted September 13 2024 - 1:13 AM

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#8 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted September 13 2024 - 7:56 AM

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Seconding Cautolasius. If you can get a photo that shows the head shape in full face view and the scape length (best seen with the scape held in repose, towards the back of the head), it should help distinguish between L. brevicornis and L. nearcticus.


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#9 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 13 2024 - 7:58 AM

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You can also compare them to pictures from my journal here. 


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