Best Answer OiledOlives , September 11 2024 - 5:10 AM
Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.
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Posted September 11 2024 - 4:31 AM
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I can not guarantee what species of Lasius that is, but it is definitely in the neoniger complex. It is also not parasitic, and is fully claustral.
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Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.
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Posted September 11 2024 - 5:44 AM
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Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.
I believe he was referring to the term niger complex. Take this excerpt from AntWiki: "Wilson (1955) - The worker is best distinguished by its abundant standing appendage pilosity combined with the clypeal outline and mandibular dentition characteristic of the "niger complex" (Lasius niger, Lasius alienus, Lasius emarginatus, Lasius productus)." Note this is out of date, as North American alienus is now americanus, etc., though I believe that general species group is what he was referring to.
"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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Posted September 11 2024 - 8:29 AM
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Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.
Why I don't do ID's :facepalm:I think the coloration of the whole image threw me off
Edited by Ants_Dakota, September 11 2024 - 8:31 AM.
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Lasius (Cautolasius), likely L. brevicornis in a suburban area. Not in a "neoniger complex", which is a taxonomic term I have never heard of.
I believe he was referring to the term niger complex. Take this excerpt from AntWiki: "Wilson (1955) - The worker is best distinguished by its abundant standing appendage pilosity combined with the clypeal outline and mandibular dentition characteristic of the "niger complex" (Lasius niger, Lasius alienus, Lasius emarginatus, Lasius productus)." Note this is out of date, as North American alienus is now americanus, etc., though I believe that general species group is what he was referring to.
Yes, i attempted to "revise" it by referring to them by their north american ID names so that American ant keepers can correctly ID. I shall correct it to neoniger/niger group in the future. But, as it appears I did not ID correctly, there is no need to pay attention to my post.
Edited by Ants_Dakota, September 11 2024 - 9:23 AM.
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Seconding Cautolasius. If you can get a photo that shows the head shape in full face view and the scape length (best seen with the scape held in repose, towards the back of the head), it should help distinguish between L. brevicornis and L. nearcticus.
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You can also compare them to pictures from my journal here.
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Seconding Cautolasius. If you can get a photo that shows the head shape in full face view and the scape length (best seen with the scape held in repose, towards the back of the head), it should help distinguish between L. brevicornis and L. nearcticus.
You can also compare them to pictures from my journal here.
I checked out your journal and they do indeed look similar, I took note of how you were keeping multiple in the same tube and attempted the same thing. I had contrasting results with the alate and dealate queens. Placing the alates together caused no troubles, they grouped up and didn't seem to mind one another. The dealates on the other hand showed signs of aggression, with the defender flaring their mandibles and lunging at the invader. The invader wanted nothing to do with this and made a speedy retreat out of the tube. I tried this a few times with different queens to the same result.
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