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Started By AntsGodzilla , Sep 9 2024 11:57 AM
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#1 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 9 2024 - 11:57 AM

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My pogonomyrmex rugosus just had a 7 worker die-off in three days. What happened? Unless feeding them dead fruit flies id bad, I haven't changed anything.


Edited by AntsGodzilla, September 9 2024 - 12:06 PM.

I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

#2 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 9 2024 - 12:12 PM

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I mean, I did just give them humming bird nectar, but my myrmecocystus drink it and nothing bad happens to them,


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 9 2024 - 1:59 PM

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What brand of hummingbird nectar?
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#4 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 9 2024 - 2:03 PM

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pennington


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

#5 Offline IdioticMouse26 - Posted September 9 2024 - 5:58 PM

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Were the fruit flies wild ones? They could have carried germs/parasites. If you found them dead, they could have been sprayed with bug spray.


#6 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted September 10 2024 - 6:36 AM

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The workers could've been older nanitics/workers that have finally died. 


Edited by cooIboyJ, September 10 2024 - 6:36 AM.

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#7 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 10 2024 - 8:17 AM

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The workers could've been older nanitics/workers that have finally died. 

Now that I think about it, it was probably that because I haven't seen much dead so far.


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I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

#8 Offline bmb1bee - Posted September 10 2024 - 10:00 AM

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I mean, I did just give them humming bird nectar, but my myrmecocystus drink it and nothing bad happens to them,

P. rugosus don't need hummingbird nectar. It'd be wise to invest in a bag of untreated grass seeds, since they normally eat seeds in the wild. I'd also use larger insects than fruit flies for a better protein boost. Regarding dead workers, it could be one out of a variety of reasons such as lack of food, nanitics aging, or a bad batch of nectar provided.


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#9 Offline AntsTx - Posted September 10 2024 - 10:32 AM

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P. rugosus don't need hummingbird nectar. It'd be wise to invest in a bag of untreated grass seeds, since they normally eat seeds in the wild. I'd also use larger insects than fruit flies for a better protein boost. Regarding dead workers, it could be one out of a variety of reasons such as lack of food, nanitics aging, or a bad batch of nectar provided.

I buy this brand of dandelion seeds and they are the favorite of my P. occidentalis colony but that could just be P. occidentalis.


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#10 Offline bmb1bee - Posted September 10 2024 - 10:47 AM

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I buy this brand of dandelion seeds and they are the favorite of my P. occidentalis colony but that could just be P. occidentalis.

Yeah, I also use dandelion seeds. I typically collect those by hand, though perhaps growing and culturing them myself would be more efficient.


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#11 Offline mete - Posted September 11 2024 - 2:32 AM

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My pogonomyrmex rugosus just had a 7 worker die-off in three days. What happened? Unless feeding them dead fruit flies id bad, I haven't changed anything.

 

I wonder how large and old is the colony ?


#12 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 11 2024 - 5:47 AM

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Yes, Pogonomyrmex have no need for sugars, and seeds is their primary diet. If you haven't been giving them seeds and not many fruit flies they are probably starving to death.


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#13 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 11 2024 - 6:42 AM

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Yes, Pogonomyrmex have no need for sugars, and seeds is their primary diet. If you haven't been giving them seeds and not many fruit flies they are probably starving to death.

No, they have plenty of seeds, and up until a a week ago hey have had a bunch of fruit flies, I just need to restock them when I have time.


 

My pogonomyrmex rugosus just had a 7 worker die-off in three days. What happened? Unless feeding them dead fruit flies id bad, I haven't changed anything.

 

I wonder how large and old is the colony ?

 

About 40 workers and around seven months.


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

#14 Offline Yusteponant - Posted September 11 2024 - 7:18 AM

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For my Pogonomyrmex Rugosus I feed them mostly seeds and insect protein now and then. I use dandelion, kentucky blue grass and chia.


#15 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 11 2024 - 3:01 PM

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yeah that's what I do


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

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