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What Pheidole sp should I get?

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#1 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 7 2024 - 9:41 AM

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Hey everyone, I've been looking for my next colony, and pheidole caught my eye because of their supermajors. I am waiting for Hyatti to come back in stock in Antopia usa, buy I was wondering if there might be better species for a first time pheidole keeper.


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 


#2 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 7 2024 - 9:50 AM

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Hey everyone, I've been looking for my next colony, and pheidole caught my eye because of their supermajors. I am waiting for Hyatti to come back in stock in Antopia usa, buy I was wondering if there might be better species for a first time pheidole keeper.

One note they don't have super majors. I would recommend P.bicarinata check out ANTdrew's colony as it is full of info.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#3 Offline eea - Posted September 7 2024 - 10:02 AM

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Have pheidole stopped flying?

#4 Online ANTdrew - Posted September 7 2024 - 10:50 AM

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I second P. bicarinata. Pheidole in my area are done flying for sure.
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#5 Offline ReignofRage - Posted September 7 2024 - 5:09 PM

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The most "fun" Pheidole you can find in California would have to be the main group (excludes P. sciophilaP. fallax-group species such as the P. hyatti you have your eyes on.



#6 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:07 AM

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I looked into the pheidole journals and the colonies are a little to big for me


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 


#7 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:14 AM

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I looked into the pheidole journals and the colonies are a little to big for me

It  takes a year or two for them to grow very big.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#8 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:15 AM

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oh ok


what would be the max of pheidole bicarinata?


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 


#9 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:18 AM

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A few thousand I would say. But with optimal conditions they may grow with 200-400 workers within a year.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#10 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:22 AM

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And what would be a good formicarium for them when they are full grown? I buy from THA because I'm bad at diy.

 

 

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Edited by AntsGodzilla, September 8 2024 - 10:23 AM.

I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 


#11 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:29 AM

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UA makes great custom diy nests. When they get to that size hit him a dm and he'll help you.


Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#12 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 12:26 PM

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I know that pheidole eat a lot, and I only have fruit flies, chicken, spiders, and sometimes other meats available. Would that be enough?


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 


#13 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 8 2024 - 12:40 PM

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I know that pheidole eat a lot, and I only have fruit flies, chicken, spiders, and sometimes other meats available. Would that be enough?

with carbohydrates yes that is enough


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#14 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 8 2024 - 12:42 PM

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UA makes great custom diy nests. When they get to that size hit him a dm and he'll help you.

They are also quite affordable so that helps. Por Amor also makes really unique products and they have many affordable options to choose from.


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#15 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 1:32 PM

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UA makes great custom diy nests. When they get to that size hit him a dm and he'll help you.

They are also quite affordable so that helps. Por Amor also makes really unique products and they have many affordable options to choose from.

 

how many of these: https://www.poramora...carium-18x18-cmwould I need for a full sized colony?


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 


#16 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 2:00 PM

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I would say 1. But I wouldn't worry about that till you even have them to that size.


Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, September 8 2024 - 2:00 PM.

Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#17 Offline bmb1bee - Posted September 8 2024 - 2:08 PM

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I looked into the pheidole journals and the colonies are a little to big for me

It  takes a year or two for them to grow very big.
Nah, takes them less than a year to get big.

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#18 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 2:29 PM

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Would this be better since it's bigger https://www.antscana...d-2-0-gear-pack


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 


#19 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 5:25 PM

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I Would not recommend it for it is made of  cheap plastic. (especially the nest)


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#20 Online AntsGodzilla - Posted September 9 2024 - 7:13 AM

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yeah I've heard that before


I keep:

(angry) Pogonomyrmex Rugosus,
(stubborn) Myrmecocystus Deplisis
Tetramorium Immigrans
Monomorium Minimum

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap)

Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant)

Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant

Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 






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