Jump to content

  • Chat
  •  
  •  

Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo

freezing vs. heating the catched insects


  • Please log in to reply
7 replies to this topic

#1 Offline mete - Posted August 30 2024 - 9:52 AM

mete

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 48 posts
  • LocationSwitzerland
In the guide here it writes, "If the insects are not cultured at home, it is advisable to freeze them for at least an hour to prevent any mites or pathogens from harming your ants.". Does heating (and by this I mean boiling water, but also I wonder hot air) have exactly the same effect (and in a few seconds?) ? I particularly mean fruit flies and spiders if it matters.

#2 Offline Ants4ever7 - Posted August 30 2024 - 11:29 AM

Ants4ever7

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 29 posts
  • LocationMesa, Arizona

I am new as well and don't have nanitics yet, so correct me if I'm wrong, but from videos I think boiling for 5-10 seconds is okay and more humane.



#3 Online cooIboyJ - Posted August 30 2024 - 11:31 AM

cooIboyJ

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 462 posts
  • Locationhenderson NV

I am new as well and don't have nanitics yet, so correct me if I'm wrong, but from videos I think boiling for 5-10 seconds is okay and more humane.

I heard somewhere that it is actually torture to boil bugs but, this might be wrong. I’ll try to find the link if i can.

“You’ll survive” -wise man.
Currently keeping:
Brachymyrmex patagonicus

Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.


#4 Offline mete - Posted August 30 2024 - 11:58 AM

mete

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 48 posts
  • LocationSwitzerland
I have also read the ethical discussion, but I was wondering just the biological aspect. I think what I am trying to ask is if 100C for some seconds (5-10) is enough to kill all the pathogens or not (so high temp and/or longer time needed).

#5 Online cooIboyJ - Posted August 30 2024 - 12:31 PM

cooIboyJ

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 462 posts
  • Locationhenderson NV

I have also read the ethical discussion, but I was wondering just the biological aspect. I think what I am trying to ask is if 100C for some seconds (5-10) is enough to kill all the pathogens or not (so high temp and/or longer time needed).

it will probably work.
  • antlover18 and IdioticMouse26 like this

“You’ll survive” -wise man.
Currently keeping:
Brachymyrmex patagonicus

Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.


#6 Offline IdioticMouse26 - Posted August 30 2024 - 2:17 PM

IdioticMouse26

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 137 posts
  • LocationBC, Canada

Boil them, but do it for like a good minute



#7 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 30 2024 - 4:13 PM

ANTdrew

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPip
  • 9,768 posts
  • LocationAlexandria, VA
Freezing is not enough to kill mite eggs. Dip feeders in boiling water for three seconds.
  • rptraut and cooIboyJ like this
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#8 Online cooIboyJ - Posted August 30 2024 - 4:33 PM

cooIboyJ

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 462 posts
  • Locationhenderson NV

I guess ill start boiling now.


“You’ll survive” -wise man.
Currently keeping:
Brachymyrmex patagonicus

Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users