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Started By Gtrib , Aug 26 2024 1:01 PM

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#1 Offline Gtrib - Posted August 26 2024 - 1:01 PM

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Hi, just started collecting gynes this year after being hobby-adjacent for several years. Got 5 going in test tube setups right now and I need some help with IDs so I can get some species appropriate nests/care. Thanks!

Most collected in Fort Collins CO area. Last Pogonomyrmex collected in Yuma CO near NE border.

1. Lasius Niger?
2-3. Camponotus pennsylvanicus?
4-5. No idea.
5-6. Pogonomyrmex occidentalis?
7-8. Pogonomyrmex barbatus?

Thanks again.

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#2 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted August 26 2024 - 1:48 PM

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Your no idea is Formica.sp and that camponotus may be leavigatus.


Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

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Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#3 Offline Gtrib - Posted August 26 2024 - 1:54 PM

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Your no idea is Formica.sp and that camponotus may be leavigatus.


Thank you, I was thinking it might be laevigatus but I usually see them only high elevations. Glad to have a formica as I was looking for a rufa whole season.
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#4 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted August 26 2024 - 1:55 PM

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Not to burst your bubble but Formica rufa isn't found in the USA


Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#5 Offline Gtrib - Posted August 26 2024 - 2:14 PM

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Not to burst your bubble but Formica rufa isn't found in the USA


Yes of course, I meant one of the rufa group.
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#6 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted August 26 2024 - 3:48 PM

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Oh ok 


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#7 Offline OiledOlives - Posted August 27 2024 - 8:10 AM

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1. Formica neogagates-group
4-5. Formica pallidefulva-group, need to see pilosity of alitrunk and pubescence of gaster of workers to determine species.
6-7. Pogonomyrmex occidentalis-group, need a clearer photo of teeth to determine species, but occidentalist seems right from what I can tell.
8-9. Pogonomyrmex barbatus-group, need clear view of sculpturing of occiputs to det. species, but barbatus is the most common by far.


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#8 Offline Gtrib - Posted August 27 2024 - 2:21 PM

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1. Formica neogagates-group
4-5. Formica pallidefulva-group, need to see pilosity of alitrunk and pubescence of gaster of workers to determine species.
6-7. Pogonomyrmex occidentalis-group, need a clearer photo of teeth to determine species, but occidentalist seems right from what I can tell.
8-9. Pogonomyrmex barbatus-group, need clear view of sculpturing of occiputs to det. species, but barbatus is the most common by far.


Thanks so much, glad I was on the right track with Camponotus and Pogonomyrmex, but I'd have never guessed formica for that first queen. Huge help.
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