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Started By AntsGodzilla , Aug 26 2024 7:05 AM
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#1 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted August 26 2024 - 7:05 AM

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My myrmecocystus deplisis won't eat anything, including humming bird nectar, ant jelly, or honey. what else can i try?


 

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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 

#2 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 26 2024 - 7:59 AM

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Are they a new colony? You need to give more information.


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#3 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted August 26 2024 - 9:49 AM

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I got them last week on wednesday, and usually the humming bird nectar disapears overnight, but i think that's because it evaporates, and i've seen nothing near a repleat.


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

Godzilla thread

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 

#4 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 26 2024 - 10:15 AM

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How many workers do they have? Because they could be refusing to be fed because they are still being fed by the queen with her muscle and brain soup.


Edited by cooIboyJ, August 26 2024 - 10:18 AM.

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Currently keeping:
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Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#5 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted August 26 2024 - 10:27 AM

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around 23


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

Godzilla thread

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 

#6 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 26 2024 - 10:30 AM

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Maybe you should try feeding them something else like a fly or mealworm and see if they accept it; try feeding them a lot of different foods and see which ones they accept.


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Crematogaster sp.

#7 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 26 2024 - 10:56 AM

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I got them last week on wednesday, and usually the humming bird nectar disapears overnight, but i think that's because it evaporates, and i've seen nothing near a repleat.

Get a liquid feeder like the ones ByFormica makes. They'll keep the liquid from evaporating. You mentioned there's nothing near a repleat. Also be aware that small colonies don't forage often and don't need to eat much at all. They may be eating when you're not looking. I always count on not being able to observe my small colonies' feeding. It's a defense mechanism; if a small colony is too bold and obvious foraging, all the nanitics could fall to predators.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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#8 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted August 26 2024 - 11:09 AM

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They will eat fruit flies


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And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

Godzilla thread

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 

#9 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted August 26 2024 - 1:42 PM

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Also at this stage the queen can also act as a replete.


Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

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Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#10 Offline eea - Posted August 26 2024 - 4:23 PM

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Brain soup? lol


#11 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 26 2024 - 4:52 PM

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Brain soup? lol

Yeah the queen uses part of her brain to feed to the workers and herself because once the workers arrive she won't need to know how to take care of the brood so she won't need that part of her brain.


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#12 Offline eea - Posted August 26 2024 - 5:29 PM

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That explains a lot.  :wacko3:


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#13 Offline rptraut - Posted August 27 2024 - 5:24 PM

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Brain soup? lol

Yeah the queen uses part of her brain to feed to the workers and herself because once the workers arrive she won't need to know how to take care of the brood so she won't need that part of her brain.

 

Hello coolboyJ;

 

I'm sorry, but I just have to ask, what was your source for this information?    I've never read anything like it before.....

 

Myrmecocystus deplisis may be different, but my understanding of founding queens is that they use the energy and protein from their bodies, especially their now surplus wing muscles, to produce infertile eggs which they feed to their first larvae.   

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#14 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 28 2024 - 6:03 AM

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Brain soup? lol

Yeah the queen uses part of her brain to feed to the workers and herself because once the workers arrive she won't need to know how to take care of the brood so she won't need that part of her brain.

 

Hello coolboyJ;

 

I'm sorry, but I just have to ask, what was your source for this information?    I've never read anything like it before.....

 

Myrmecocystus deplisis may be different, but my understanding of founding queens is that they use the energy and protein from their bodies, especially their now surplus wing muscles, to produce infertile eggs which they feed to their first larvae.   

RPT

 

I read it in a book I got from the library but I may be wrong about this. Also, isn't the brain part of their body? And once broken down it would probably be a good protein source.


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#15 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted August 28 2024 - 6:09 AM

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I've never heard of ants breaking down parts of their brain. that book may have been misleading.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#16 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 28 2024 - 6:11 AM

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I've never heard of ants breaking down parts of their brain. that book may have been misleading.

I have read some misleading things in books. Like for example: that some types of males grow without wings and then they walk off and find an ant colony, mate with an unmated queen there, and then go find another colony to mate with. I'm pretty sure that that one is not true.


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#17 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted August 28 2024 - 6:37 AM

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Yeah very misleading most males do infact have wings and fly off to mate.


Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, August 28 2024 - 9:23 AM.

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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#18 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted August 28 2024 - 7:06 AM

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crazy


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And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

Godzilla thread

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 

#19 Offline eea - Posted August 28 2024 - 8:54 AM

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Yeah very misleading. males do infact have wings and fly off to mate.


Hypoponera opacior have wingless males.

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#20 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted August 28 2024 - 9:22 AM

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K thanks for the info.


Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

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